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Re: The Origins Debate
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Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:41:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ian Warfield writes:

My aversion to Ross isn't so much because of ID theory but because he links
it necessarily to Christianity, and believes in Special Creation (i.e.,
doesn't accept that speciation or evolution even happened or can be
demonstrated--the former of which, at least, is a laughable assertion).

Evolution is still a theory, after all;

I don't understand this argument.  Everything science proposes is theory
(hypothesis, actually).  It never goes beyond that.  Everything science
determines is a tentative explanation, pending better.

That's exactly what I meant.  It wasn't an argument; I was just restating
the fact that evolution is, indeed, a theory.

It is not valid to claim that "evolution is _still_ a theory" as if it were
somehow going to _ever_ change that state.  It won't.  It can't.  Rational
people prepare to adapt to new data and refine their hypotheses.

I wasn't claiming that it necessarily would.  I was merely guarding against
the possibility of anyone claiming it as absolute proof.

Gravity is still a theory, after all.

Your very existence is merely a theory too.  It seems to be a darned good
explanation for what we are perceiving, so we act like you really exist.  If
new data explains our perceptions better, we might revise that assumption.

Chris

"On the Internet, no one knows you're a minifig..." :)

--Ian



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  Re: The Origins Debate
 
(...) To be more precise, evolution is a fact, just as gravity is a fact. The Darwinian model of natural selection is an evolutionary theory--that is, a theory that hopes to explain the process by which the fact of evolution occurs. (...) But no one (...) (23 years ago, 20-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I don't understand this argument. Everything science proposes is theory (hypothesis, actually). It never goes beyond that. Everything science determines is a tentative explanation, pending better. It is not valid to claim that "evolution is (...) (23 years ago, 19-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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