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Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
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Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:10:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ian Warfield writes:

but we only actually get to gawp at it from the 1 in however many where it
all comes together - none of the others.  So all those other possibilities
(count 'em if you like) are completely irrelevant.

But our universe is extraordinarily logical, coherent, and reliable.  The
chance that we happened to fall in the exact universe that not only fits
these (and other) requirements but fits them to a huge degree of precision,
is astronomical.

You're not getting it.  Maybe there were 10^37 (or whatever) universal
incarnations that had nothing like us occur.  That's fine.  You're arguing
that a probability that doesn't actually have any bearing on our likelihood,
does.  I'm sorry, but that's invalid.  It's like claiming that since the
lottery is a 1:6x10^7 proposition, then it's impossible to win.  Obviously
that's false.

Chris



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  Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
 
(...) Yes indeed. Another way to approach it is to point out that we (life in general) weren't running around looking for a universe to populate and were lucky enough to find this one; we (again, life in general) arose within this universe because (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
 
(...) God reserves the right to engineer events, but He makes sure to allow us to maintain our free will. Anyway it's God's universe; He can do what He wants with it. (...) You have that choice. The tree of knowledge was placed in the Garden of Eden (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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