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Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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Sat, 15 Sep 2001 02:17:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes:
> No cop-outs. The question is not, "How can you believe in God?", but, "How
> can you believe in man?!"
The reason is that man acts to benefit man in countless, demonstrable, and
tangible ways daily, while this alleged "God" of your has sat on His Divine
Butt for two millennia or more without so much as a peep (unless we include the
wholly non-verifiable assertions of the faithful (which, plus $1.15, will buy
you a cup of coffee.))
> That's funny, I saw PEOPLE hijack and crash those planes. I also saw three
> plane loads of PEOPLE sit by and "allow" those planes to be hijacked and
> crashed (the fourth didn't).
I call that the most callous, disgusting, and non-Christian statement I have
read regarding this incident. How dare you accuse the passengers of those
three jets of "sit[ting] by" when you have no concept of what went on in that
plane? If Heaven is full of Christians with attitudes like yours, I want no
part of it.
> > > Let's be thankful for His mercy during such a tragedy.
> >
> > What mercy? Where is the mercy for:
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> > -All the victims of the crashes
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> If the next life can be said to be better than this, there it is. Same below.
Yeah, and if it's worse, than there it is, too. You're dissembling.
> > I fail to see any evidence of God's mercy. I only see evidence of people
> > whose lives have been destroyed and changed forever.
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> > I have the utmost respect for all those who have risen to help. But I
> > have no respect for a God who would allow this to happen.
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> Have you intervened to prevent every foul deed you have witnessed or new was
> happening?
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> I didn't think so.
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> So, you yourself "allow" things to transpire that you do nothing to stop?
> Hmmm. Why is that? Therein lies your answer.
Really? If I'm going to worship a God, I'm going to hold him to a higher
standard of morality and integrity than I myself am able to follow. For a God,
alleged to be the pinnacle of goodness, to sit by while atrocities are commited
is the height of cruelty, especially when, in His allegedly infinite power He
could prevent such atrocities.
Further, it is indeed a cop-out to assert that "We Cannot Know His Plan," and
it's a loaded answer in any case. If We Cannot Know His Plan, then we cannot
know that His plan is Good and not Evil, either.
> It's convenient and easy to blame God because then you won't have to face
> the deeper issues.
I blame God for nothing, just as I blame Santa Claus for nothing. I am
perfectly willing to face any deep issue you care to mention, and I don't need
to appeal to any deific alpha-male primate figure for comfort.
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