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Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:50:30 GMT
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Mark, I'm glad you spoke up, because I was beginning to think I might be the
only one who thought this way.

Although I can't speak for Mr. Sandlin, I have the same feelings as Mark
wrote about, and I am an atheist.  I am an archaeologist and one of the
things I have studied to some extent is the evolution of the human race,
which is extensive proof that there was no act of any higher being to create
our species.  I don't really want to start a big religious debate here, I
echo the question how can people can maintain faith.  Everyone can pray to
whichever being they want if that makes them feel better, but how can anyone
say or think that 'He' has shown any mercy on anyone.

I quote Ian Warfield:
- The government could be in much worse shape.  The plane that crashed into
the Pentagon was supposed to hit the White House.  The Pentagon is built
like a tank, so only one section was damaged.  The White House would have
been flattened.
- Likewise, they think that the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was bound
for the Capitol.  Had the plane not been brought down prematurely by the
heroic passengers, the Capitol most likely would have been destroyed.
(Congress was in session, too.)
- The death toll at the WTC could be much higher than it is.  Fifty thousand
people worked there, yet most were able to evacuate because the towers did
not collapse right away.
- The people of America have rallied like never before in this generation,
donating blood and money.  Enlistments have risen substantially.
- There has been a tremendous outpouring of support all over the world.
Nearly every country has been horrified at the attack and has pledged
whatever support it can give.

And what Mark said is right on, these acts are people, coming together in
this terrible crisis.

As this is the first time I've spoken on the events of Tuesday here, I am
one of the people who supports the response to punish those responsible.  If
it is bin Laden, there will be some difficulty even finding him, the US has
tried to eliminate him before and failed.  Read Osama bin Laden's terrorist
'resume' here: http://www.adl.org/presrele/terrorismintl_93/bin_laden_93.asp
and tell me that he will make this easy for anyone to punish him, or even
find him.  I heard on the news last night that the Taliban asked for
evidence to convict bin Laden, but to me it sounds like giving more time to
bin Laden to move around or do whatever he is doing now.  He and other
terrorists must be eliminated.  I do not wish for innocent people to have
caught in the middle of the war against terrorism, but that is now too late.

~Adam

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Sandlin writes:
In article <GJo2MB.Lp4@lugnet.com>, "Ian Warfield" <ipw47@hotmail.com>
wrote:

As you say, many are wondering where God is right now, or why He let this
happen.

I'm wondering how people can maintain their faith in the face of what
has just happened. If you believe God to be all-good and all-powerful,
then explain to me how this kind of horrible thing is allowed to happen.
And don't give me that "works in mysterious ways" cop-out.

I'd like to say to them that He's very much present and hard at
work.

Hmph.

We see it reflected all over:

No we don't. I see PEOPLE coming together and helping.


Let's be thankful for His mercy during such a tragedy.

What mercy? Where is the mercy for:

-All the victims of the crashes

-The people who worked in the WTC

-The missing rescue workers

-The American Muslims who are being Persecuted in the Christian God's
name.

I fail to see any evidence of God's mercy. I only see evidence of people
whose lives have been destroyed and changed forever.

I have the utmost respect for all those who have risen to help. But I
have no respect for a God who would allow this to happen.

~Grand Admiral Muffin Head



Message is in Reply To:
  Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
 
(...) I'm wondering how people can maintain their faith in the face of what has just happened. If you believe God to be all-good and all-powerful, then explain to me how this kind of horrible thing is allowed to happen. And don't give me that "works (...) (23 years ago, 14-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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