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Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
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Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:58:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:

But our universe is extraordinarily logical, coherent, and reliable.  The
chance that we happened to fall in the exact universe that not only fits
these (and other) requirements but fits them to a huge degree of precision,
is astronomical.

You're not getting it.  Maybe there were 10^37 (or whatever) universal
incarnations that had nothing like us occur.  That's fine.  You're arguing
that a probability that doesn't actually have any bearing on our likelihood,
does.  I'm sorry, but that's invalid.

  Yes indeed.  Another way to approach it is to point out that we (life in
general) weren't running around looking for a universe to populate and were
lucky enough to find this one; we (again, life in general) arose within this
universe because the circumstances in this universe permitted life to arise.
Whether or not any or all other universes could support life is irrelevant;
this one does, and here we are.

It's like claiming that since the
lottery is a 1:6x10^7 proposition, then it's impossible to win.  Obviously
that's false.

  I dunno--it's always seemed pretty impossible for me to win...  8^)

     Dave!



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  Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
 
(...) Might that be because you don't play? That's *usually* my reason for not winning, although once in a while (when the expected value (of the net present value of the win after taxes) >100% of the cost to play) it is because the gods don't like (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
 
(...) You're not getting it. Maybe there were 10^37 (or whatever) universal incarnations that had nothing like us occur. That's fine. You're arguing that a probability that doesn't actually have any bearing on our likelihood, does. I'm sorry, but (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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