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Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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Fri, 14 Sep 2001 22:58:31 GMT
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In article <GJoA9E.IzC@lugnet.com>, "Bill Farkas" <wolfe65@msn.com>
wrote:
> No cop-outs. The question is not, "How can you believe in God?", but, "How
> can you believe in man?!" God didn't do this, man did.
Then how can anyone say that God has been merciful. Mercy implies
participation. If God isn't participating, then he couldn't have been
merciful.
> I like how people
> expect God to intervene in self serving ways but they don't want Him to
> interfere with their "fun."
What does that have to do with anything I've talked about? I thought the
discussion was about mercy?
> If God were to intervene in such ways, some
> would accuse Him of being too controlling. Bad men chose to do a bad thing.
> Some people enjoy doing bad things. God has never made a promise obligating
> Himself to intervene in such instances. He has given *us* freedom to choose.
> This has nothing to do with His goodness. We tainted His perfect creation by
> our sin. Your question is a cop-out, and is as old as the hills.
My question is a cop-out of what? I'm not following you here.
> Pain and suffering are man's fault not God's.
I agree. And by the same token, the rescue efforts are man's mercy and
not God's.
> > No we don't. I see PEOPLE coming together and helping.
>
> That's funny, I saw PEOPLE hijack and crash those planes. I also saw three
> plane loads of PEOPLE sit by and "allow" those planes to be hijacked and
> crashed (the fourth didn't).
Yes, I agree completely. And God did nothing, therefore he is showing no
mercy, since he's not involved.
> > > Let's be thankful for His mercy during such a tragedy.
> >
> > What mercy? Where is the mercy for:
> >
> > -All the victims of the crashes
>
> If the next life can be said to be better than this, there it is. Same below.
Really? All the victims, or just the Christian ones? How do you know?
> > -The people who worked in the WTC
> >
> > -The missing rescue workers
> >
> > -The American Muslims who are being Persecuted in the Christian God's
> > name.
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> Who said it was in the name of the Christian's God? It wasn't me.
All the people yelling on CNN said it was.
> > I fail to see any evidence of God's mercy. I only see evidence of people
> > whose lives have been destroyed and changed forever.
> >
> > I have the utmost respect for all those who have risen to help. But I
> > have no respect for a God who would allow this to happen.
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> Have you intervened to prevent every foul deed you have witnessed or new was
> happening?
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> I didn't think so.
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> So, you yourself "allow" things to transpire that you do nothing to stop?
> Hmmm. Why is that? Therein lies your answer.
>
> It's convenient and easy to blame God because then you won't have to face
> the deeper issues.
I'm thoroughly confused by your last paragraph. It sounds kind of like
you're attacking my integrity because I don't agree with you. I met you
when you were out here in Seattle, and you seemed like a much nicer
person than that. I hope I'm misunderstood about your intent here.
~Grand Admiral Muffin Head
--
Mark's Lego(R) Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
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