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Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:56:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Sandlin writes:
In article <GJo2MB.Lp4@lugnet.com>, "Ian Warfield" <ipw47@hotmail.com>
wrote:

As you say, many are wondering where God is right now, or why He let this
happen.

I'm wondering how people can maintain their faith in the face of what
has just happened. If you believe God to be all-good and all-powerful,
then explain to me how this kind of horrible thing is allowed to happen.
And don't give me that "works in mysterious ways" cop-out.

No cop-outs. The question is not, "How can you believe in God?", but, "How
can you believe in man?!" God didn't do this, man did. I like how people
expect God to intervene in self serving ways but they don't want Him to
interfere with their "fun." If God were to intervene in such ways, some
would accuse Him of being too controlling. Bad men chose to do a bad thing.
Some people enjoy doing bad things. God has never made a promise obligating
Himself to intervene in such instances. He has given *us* freedom to choose.
This has nothing to do with His goodness. We tainted His perfect creation by
our sin. Your question is a cop-out, and is as old as the hills. Pain and
suffering are man's fault not God's.



I'd like to say to them that He's very much present and hard at
work.

Hmph.

We see it reflected all over:

No we don't. I see PEOPLE coming together and helping.

That's funny, I saw PEOPLE hijack and crash those planes. I also saw three
plane loads of PEOPLE sit by and "allow" those planes to be hijacked and
crashed (the fourth didn't).



Let's be thankful for His mercy during such a tragedy.

What mercy? Where is the mercy for:

-All the victims of the crashes

If the next life can be said to be better than this, there it is. Same below.


-The people who worked in the WTC

-The missing rescue workers

-The American Muslims who are being Persecuted in the Christian God's
name.

Who said it was in the name of the Christian's God? It wasn't me.



I fail to see any evidence of God's mercy. I only see evidence of people
whose lives have been destroyed and changed forever.

I have the utmost respect for all those who have risen to help. But I
have no respect for a God who would allow this to happen.

Have you intervened to prevent every foul deed you have witnessed or new was
happening?

I didn't think so.

So, you yourself "allow" things to transpire that you do nothing to stop?
Hmmm. Why is that? Therein lies your answer.

It's convenient and easy to blame God because then you won't have to face
the deeper issues.



~Grand Admiral Muffin Head

Respectfully,
Just plain Bill



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
 
(...) Who would accuse God or anyone of being too controlling if what happened could have been prevented? And who would say God is controlling in anyway now? You said yourself that bad men do bad things and some people enjoy doing bad things, god (...) (23 years ago, 14-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
 
(...) Then how can anyone say that God has been merciful. Mercy implies participation. If God isn't participating, then he couldn't have been merciful. (...) What does that have to do with anything I've talked about? I thought the discussion was (...) (23 years ago, 14-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
 
(...) The reason is that man acts to benefit man in countless, demonstrable, and tangible ways daily, while this alleged "God" of your has sat on His Divine Butt for two millennia or more without so much as a peep (unless we include the wholly (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
 
(...) I'm wondering how people can maintain their faith in the face of what has just happened. If you believe God to be all-good and all-powerful, then explain to me how this kind of horrible thing is allowed to happen. And don't give me that "works (...) (23 years ago, 14-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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