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I was able to go see The Phantom Menace for a second time over the weekend and
I have to say that I liked it even better the second time.
Jar Jar was not as annoying the second time around. Don't get me wrong he is
annoying but because I knew what to expect from him I was able to focus on
other things that were going on and not on Jar Jar.
The climactic saber Duel is great although I would like to know what those
force fields/energy barriers were?
And finally if you havn't noticed yet E.T. makes a camio appearance in the
movie. Look for him and two of his buddy's at the tail end of the Senate
scene.
Eric
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Eric Kingsley wrote:
> I was able to go see The Phantom Menace for a second time over the weekend and
> I have to say that I liked it even better the second time.
>
> Jar Jar was not as annoying the second time around. Don't get me wrong he is
> annoying but because I knew what to expect from him I was able to focus on
> other things that were going on and not on Jar Jar.
>
> The climactic saber Duel is great although I would like to know what those
> force fields/energy barriers were?
>
> And finally if you havn't noticed yet E.T. makes a camio appearance in the
> movie. Look for him and two of his buddy's at the tail end of the Senate
> scene.
I agree completely with your 2nd viewing assessment, though I also knew going in
the first time, that Jar Jar was going to be a nuissence, so I was able to look
past him, but you do have to admit that he's well done technically, if overly
animated. I also caught the E.T.'s, must be a tribute to speilburg. Did you
notice the wookies?
The Pod Race sequence and the final saber duel are the most impressive scenes in
all of starwars, even topping the hoth scene in Ep V. I love the way Obi Wan was
able to predict when the energy field barriers were going to open up, he had his
saber lit and ready first (using his jedi forsight). Both me and my friend had
the same idea though, when Maul's saber was broken in half, he should have held on
to both halves and fought with one in each hand, that would have been too
awesome. The pod race scene was so good, it reminded me of the canyon race in
Iron eagle, which is one of my favorite movies. They got the sound perfect for
the pods, Sebulba's was jaw dropping.
-Dave Jr.
Go to http://soli.inav.net/~thomas/lego/main.htm
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On Mon, 24 May 1999 14:36:40 GMT, "David Thomas Jr."
<davejr@thomas-superwheel.com> wrote:
> The Pod Race sequence and the final saber duel are the most impressive scenes in
> all of starwars, even topping the hoth scene in Ep V. I love the way Obi Wan was
> able to predict when the energy field barriers were going to open up, he had his
> saber lit and ready first (using his jedi forsight). Both me and my friend had
> the same idea though, when Maul's saber was broken in half, he should have held on
> to both halves and fought with one in each hand, that would have been too
> awesome.
Maybe he hadn't trained that way? Maybe the second half was damaged (what
are the chances of Obi-wan scoring a direct hit on the center joint?)
Maybe because it would have caused Obi-wan to sneer, pull out his gun, and
blow Darth Maul away. (Oops, wrong movie)
> The pod race scene was so good, it reminded me of the canyon race in
> Iron eagle, which is one of my favorite movies. They got the sound perfect for
> the pods, Sebulba's was jaw dropping.
During the pod race, Kristin leaned over and quietly asked me, "why don't
they just fly over everything [like the cliffs, etc]?" Right after that,
Anakin went over the edge of a cliff, and we saw why they didn't just go
over -- those racers have a limited-range on the lift.
Really cool effect -- must be scary the first time you drive off a drop.
But if they hadn't used that trick in the pod race, Darth Maul's cliff-jump
on his speeder/scooter would have been more impressive.
Steve
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In lugnet.starwars, David Thomas Jr. writes:
I also caught the E.T.'s, must be a tribute to speilburg. Did you
> notice the wookies?
I didn't catch E.T., but I saw the wookies, and I think that was Warwick Davis
(of Willow and Wicket fame) sitting close to Jabba at the pod race.
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I will tell you what the book said. The book noted that those barriers are a
security device designed to slow down and halt intruders getting close to the
basement area of the palace. Apparently they tripped the security system
while on route on the bridge. Lucas reported that originally he wanted to
have doors close in on them, however with doors, they would not be able to see
each other. You will note that both Obi-Wan and Maul start pacing back and
forth with anticipation while Qui-Gon begins to relax and meditate. Lucas
wanted each character to be able to see each others responses to the pressure
and their surroundings.
Jason F.
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In lugnet.starwars, jfabisch@alphawire.com (Jason Fabisch) writes:
> I will tell you what the book said. The book noted that those barriers
> are a security device designed to slow down and halt intruders getting
> close to the basement area of the palace. Apparently they tripped the
> security system while on route on the bridge.
Ahh, cool -- that makes sense now!
Say, although DM seemed a bit surprised when he realized he was trapped in
the final containment field adjacent QGJ's, do you think there's any chance
that DM might've somehow known about these a little bit ahead of time and
planned it that way?--as a way to separate OWK from QGJ? If he could figure
out a way to fight each separately, it would give him a much higher chance
of winning the battle. Same with playing "stupid" in front of QGJ...
> Lucas reported that originally he wanted to
> have doors close in on them, however with doors, they would not be able
> to see each other.
Much better the way it ended up!
> You will note that both Obi-Wan and Maul start pacing back and
> forth with anticipation while Qui-Gon begins to relax and meditate.
I thought OWK was jumping/bobbing/stretching and DM was pacing. BTW, I
thought the way DM paced back and forth like a rabid tiger was *SO* *COOL*.
> Lucas wanted each character to be able to see each others responses to
> the pressure and their surroundings.
Man, that scene was the best!
--Todd
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On Mon, 24 May 1999 19:22:32 GMT, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) wrote:
> In lugnet.starwars, jfabisch@alphawire.com (Jason Fabisch) writes:
> > I will tell you what the book said. The book noted that those barriers
> > are a security device designed to slow down and halt intruders getting
> > close to the basement area of the palace. Apparently they tripped the
> > security system while on route on the bridge.
>
> Ahh, cool -- that makes sense now!
>
> Say, although DM seemed a bit surprised when he realized he was trapped in
> the final containment field adjacent QGJ's, do you think there's any chance
> that DM might've somehow known about these a little bit ahead of time and
> planned it that way?--as a way to separate OWK from QGJ? If he could figure
> out a way to fight each separately, it would give him a much higher chance
> of winning the battle. Same with playing "stupid" in front of QGJ...
What I want to know is why OBK couldn't run fast enough to make it all the way
through the barriers. Remember how fast he and QGJ moved when they were on the
ship and facing the destroyer droids? Then they were moving at "ludicrous
speed"
-- Terry K --
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In lugnet.starwars, legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K) writes:
> What I want to know is why OBK couldn't run fast enough to make it all
> the way through the barriers. Remember how fast he and QGJ moved when
> they were on the ship and facing the destroyer droids? Then they were
> moving at "ludicrous speed"
Yeah, how did they do that, anyway?! They couldn't've fooled the battle
droids -- they're immune to Jedi mind tricks, right?
--Todd
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In lugnet.starwars, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.starwars, legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K) writes:
> > What I want to know is why OBK couldn't run fast enough to make it all
> > the way through the barriers. Remember how fast he and QGJ moved when
> > they were on the ship and facing the destroyer droids? Then they were
> > moving at "ludicrous speed"
>
> Yeah, how did they do that, anyway?! They couldn't've fooled the battle
> droids -- they're immune to Jedi mind tricks, right?
Jedi Speed. It's a commonly (read, in more than one Star Wars book/game/etc)
used Force ability.
My personal guess as to none of them- Obi-Wan, Maul, or Qui-Gon- used it to get
through the barriers is that they were busy using the Force in other ways, like
to heighten their reflexes. If one person swinging a saber in combat's doing
it, it's probably close to suicide for his opponent not to...
eric
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On Tue, 25 May 1999 06:17:29 GMT, "Lorbaat" <eric@nospam.thirteen.net> wrote:
> In lugnet.starwars, Todd Lehman writes:
> > In lugnet.starwars, legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K) writes:
> > > What I want to know is why OBK couldn't run fast enough to make it all
> > > the way through the barriers. Remember how fast he and QGJ moved when
> > > they were on the ship and facing the destroyer droids? Then they were
> > > moving at "ludicrous speed"
> >
> > Yeah, how did they do that, anyway?! They couldn't've fooled the battle
> > droids -- they're immune to Jedi mind tricks, right?
>
> Jedi Speed. It's a commonly (read, in more than one Star Wars book/game/etc)
> used Force ability.
>
> My personal guess as to none of them- Obi-Wan, Maul, or Qui-Gon- used it to get
> through the barriers is that they were busy using the Force in other ways, like
> to heighten their reflexes. If one person swinging a saber in combat's doing
> it, it's probably close to suicide for his opponent not to...
But... but... but... OWK was doing _one_ thing - trying to run through the
barriers. If that is not a good time to use speed, what is?
So that is not a good, complete answer. Unless in some later movie OWK, in
retelling this story, smacks his forehead and mutters "I shoulda use Jedi
speed!".
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In lugnet.starwars, Terry Keller writes:
> But... but... but... OWK was doing _one_ thing - trying to run through the
> barriers. If that is not a good time to use speed, what is?
>
> So that is not a good, complete answer.
Let's see... he books it really fast into the little room with Maul, who uses
his souped up reflexes to chop him down, because Obi-Wan's natural reflexes are
unable to let him block the strike.
A good time to use speed, to me, would be when running *away* from danger, not
into it.
After all- adventure, excitement, a Jedi craves not these things.
eric
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From what I remember, the book mentioned that it was appearing that Maul was
leading them somewhere intentionally. So I think he was trying to separate
them. Correct, Maul was pacing, Q was meditating, OWK was bouncing. Sorry.
My favorite part was when the Jedi were both on the left and Maul was on the
right, if you look very carefully, OWK does a lunge/fake and Q takes the first
swing. It was incredibly well choriagraphed and probably one of the best
fight scenes I've seen since the Reptile/Lou Kang fight from the MK movie.
Lego related: Anybody else see any Rock Raider sets out there yet? I saw
three so far, two little sets and the Chrome Crusher. Odd was that of the two
little sets, one was 2 bucks cheaper, came in a tiny box, yet had more pieces
than the slightly bigger set. Something like 39 pieces for $3 in a small box
and 35 pieces for $5 in a slightly bigger box. Very odd. CC has a nice set
of wheels, but $30.00 for 167 pieces was a little steep as it comes with a
flashlight thingy.
SW Lego related: Need more podracers? Take a look at the Episode 1 Racer
game for some good rendering of lots of the podracers from the movie.
Jason F.
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"Jason Fabisch" <jfabisch@alphawire.com> writes:
> ...The book noted that those barriers are a security
> device designed to slow down and halt intruders getting
> close to the basement area of the palace...
But what the heck is all that stuff (bridges, security systems, etc.) in
the basement? In Ep V, I can see why they had the shaft for the cloud
city, but why on Naboo? The basement (if that's what it was) didn't
match anything else on the planet! It seemed totally out of place, as if
Lucas was just recalling the success of the Ep. V duel and decided to set
this duel in similar surroundings.
--Bram
Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com
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On Mon, 24 May 1999 21:28:40 GMT, Bram Lambrecht <braml@juno.com> wrote:
> "Jason Fabisch" <jfabisch@alphawire.com> writes:
> > ...The book noted that those barriers are a security
> > device designed to slow down and halt intruders getting
> > close to the basement area of the palace...
>
> But what the heck is all that stuff (bridges, security systems, etc.) in
> the basement? In Ep V, I can see why they had the shaft for the cloud
> city, but why on Naboo? The basement (if that's what it was) didn't
> match anything else on the planet! It seemed totally out of place, as if
> Lucas was just recalling the success of the Ep. V duel and decided to set
> this duel in similar surroundings.
That's it! Lucas still had the old sets laying around, he figured he could
save a few coins by recycling...
Steve
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