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Re: O'Reilly book news
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Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:54:23 GMT
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In article <Fso7Gt.ILF@lugnet.com>, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com>
wrote:

I just think it's incredibly ironic, if not a bizarre turn of events.

It's surprising to see TLC jumping on the opportunity to take advantage of
books written by people in the AFOL community that support it.  Maybe they'll
give a portion of the fees back to the authors, that would be nice.

What's particularly ironic about it, IMHO, is that the books fill holes left
open by TLC.  Now they come in and profit from the holes they forgot to fill
themselves.  :)  See the irony?  I'm not sure whether to chuckle in admiration
from a capitalist market standpoint or whether to have a sore stomach from
what it might mean about how TLC views AFOLs.


I hope people don't get too worked up about all of this.  I assume TLC
decided to put links on their site, then someone had the idea that if
they used an associate link, they'd get a little extra income.  From
their perspective, why not take advantage of a little free money?

TLC left some holes with Mindstorms, and for the last 18 months I've
been filling a couple of them (NQC and a book).  When the Mindstorms
site started accepting NQC programs, people generally looked at this as
a positive step from TLC.  I think their acknowledgments of the books -
including a link on their web site - is also a positive step.

Is it just the fact that they are profitting from AFOL contributions
that is upsetting?  To be honest, I suspect NQC's existence created more
net profit for TLC than the amazon.com link for my book will.  I'm
perfectly happy to let them derrive some profit from my efforts.  After
all, NQC and the book have brought me plenty of rewards, and neither of
those efforts would've been possible without Mindstorms.  Personally,
I'm very content in this sort of half-acknowledged symbiotic
relationship with TLC.  I can't speak for Jonathan, but I hope nobody
gets the impression that I (as an AFOL) am getting a bad deal here.

Is there a concern that the lego links will reduce the hits through
similar links on other AFOL sites?  Although I can see where this would
be disconcerting, its hardly a reason to get upset with Lego.  Its just
free market operating with respect to referrals.  If other sites
(LUGNET, etc) were depending on such money, then we will need to find
other ways to support them.

Dave Baum

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reply to: dbaum at enteract dot com



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  Re: O'Reilly book news
 
(...) I agree with Suzanne -- it looks shoddy and unprofessional. I don't think it's immoral or anything, but it puts them on the same psychological level as some random person with a geocities page full of banner ads. (24 years ago, 8-Apr-00, to lugnet.robotics) ! 
  Re: O'Reilly book news
 
(...) That's certainly their choice. I just hope they realize it's sending a mixed message. If you don't know how to recognize an Amazon.com associate ID when you see one, it looks as though TLC is finally (yay) supporting these two wonderful books, (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-00, to lugnet.robotics) ! 
  Re: O'Reilly book news
 
I like the mindstorms site.If this small amount of cash help further develop/justify it power to them. I'd rather the 15% went to TLC rather than AMAZON, as I've found them to be a little shoddy in the past. It is good that TLC is willing to (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-00, to lugnet.robotics)  
  Re: Stereo Vision
 
in article 4.3.2.7.0.2000081010...rktest.pt, Laurentino Martins at lego-robotics@crynwr.com wrote on 8/10/00 3:05 AM: (...) Always! You can rely on me to have thoughts. No guarantees about the usefulness of my thoughts, however. Use at your own (...) (24 years ago, 10-Aug-00, to lugnet.robotics)
  Re: Stereo Vision (aka mirrors)
 
(...) many (...) can be (...) Cool :) that might work too, and save about the other half of material to be used (+2 mirrors, +1 motor, +1 angle-sensor). er... I feel like having "my" solution simply slashed in the middle ;) eheheh This is really all (...) (24 years ago, 11-Aug-00, to lugnet.robotics)

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  Re: O'Reilly book news
 
(...) I just think it's incredibly ironic, if not a bizarre turn of events. It's surprising to see TLC jumping on the opportunity to take advantage of books written by people in the AFOL community that support it. Maybe they'll give a portion of the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.dear-lego)  

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