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Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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lugnet.cad.dev
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Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:06:45 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Tim Courtney wrote:
> At 11:19 AM 12/14/1999 , Steve Bliss wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad.dev, Tim Courtney wrote:
> > > LDraw Group? LDraw Organization? LDraw Foundation?
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> > I'd prefer that the group and website both go by ldraw.org. When refering
> > specifically to the people, it would be 'ldraw.org group'. For the
> > webpages, it would be 'ldraw.org site'.
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> I would have to disagree here. I clearly see 'ldraw.org' as a website,
> since that's the name the website has been given. But the group of people
> is an organization, who uses the site as its central resource for LDraw
> materials. The organization should have a separate name, because of the
> ambiguity of calling it as well 'ldraw.org.' Adding 'group' and 'site' to
> the end would add complexity to things. For example, every reference to
> 'ldraw.org' on ldraw.org refers back to the site itself.
Right now, the website pretty much *is* the organization. We don't have a
membership list, or a secret handshake, or even a definition of who's in the
group. I'm alright with this loose organization, but I feel that there isn't a
big point of making a distinction between the group and the site. Besides, if
the same name is used, normies (aka mundanes) will have a better shot at finding
the site, if they know the group.
> Is there something wrong with the above suggested names? Perhaps retaining
> L-CAD? (though this was mailing list-specific)
I was trying to cling to L-CAD for awhile, but no one else was using it. And
lugnet.cad.dev doesn't seem right.
> Anyways, I'm pretty much against referring to the group as 'ldraw.org.'
I noticed that.
So, Tim and I disagree. What do you other 'members' think?
> Another thought, I'm 'ldraw.org Project Coordinator,' Jacob is 'ldraw.org
> Site Administrator,' and you're 'ldraw.org Parts Update Manager,' all which
> refer to our specific roles as pertains to the website. My title doesn't
> mean I'm coordinating the *group*, Jacob isn't administrating the *group*,
> etc..
Check the title you've given Jacob. You say he's 'ldraw.org site
administrator'. That's ambiguous. I read it as "administrator of the ldraw.org
site".
And I'm administering (administrating?) the parts updates for the *group*. It
just happens that the updates are published on the site.
> > > > "the LDraw suite of tools that JJ developed (as maintained by TOFKALCAD)"
> > >
> > > Hmmm, original software only, or original software including our updates?
> >
> > Which updates? The new mklist.exe? Fixed versions of James' part
> > files? New parts we've written?
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> All updates, including the new parts we've written that have been included
> in the official updates.
No, then just the original software. But my *intention* with this item, was
that it was James' original package, plus software and parts-file fixes (but no
new parts).
New parts are in next bit ("part files...").
Orig package + new parts is something else.
> > > > "part files for use with LDraw-Compatible tools, and sanctioned by • TOFKALCAD"
> > >
> > > Official ldraw.org Parts Updates.
> >
> > I thought ldraw.org was the site, not the group. ;)
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> Why you little... ;) I am actually referring to the site in this
> name. The updates are officially sanctioned by the site, though they went
> through the group for approval.
Nope, doesn't wash. The site has no will, it can't sanction anything. The
*group* sanctions the updates. And the group publishes the updates on the site.
Steve
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