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At 06:57 PM 12/08/1999 , Adam Howard wrote:
> Hi Tim!
Hi Adam!
> > If LDraw is to mean only James' original software package, how should we
> > refer to the other editors so it identifies them with the dat file
> > format? Should they be identified with that?
>
> LDraw is James' software package. It will always be that. It's like 3D
> Studio Max or Adobe Photoshop, they have special formats that other software
> packages can use, but no one has redefined those names.
Right.
> > Another question: Because of the ambiguity of the .dat file extension on
> > computer systems, should we develop a new file extension that newer
> > editors can use? I realize this might be a controversial question
> because > of nostalgia and tradition, but it needs to be asked. If newer
> editors
> > defaulted towards a .ldr (LDraw) file format, but also could read from and
> > write to .dat files, would this be acceptable?
>
> I don't think a new extension is needed. But if it turns out that this
> would be better for the group as a whole then sure. I guess under one
> aspect when you search for *.dat you get a lot more than just part files. A
> new extension would make them more unique.
We could keep the parts .dat and make new models .ldr (or .ldm - LDraw
Model), or we could also change parts to .ldp (LDraw Part), just to
distinguish the difference.
> > Please reply with thoughts.
>
> You propose an interesting idea. One that I have thought of before, but
> never put form to. We now have several packages that can use the dat file
> format for Lego CAD... so what's going to happen to LDraw? Well first...
> LDraw is still the premier editor in my book. It is a lot faster than any
> of the other packages out there. I like MLCAD a lot, but it seems to take
> forever when your model starts getting bigger. LDraw moves at a snap, even
> when the files are really big. (This does depend on your system too.)
> Honestly, I thought we were all waiting for LDraw2 to come out. I remember
> someone was working on it, but I think they have given up because newer
> editors have come along.
Yeah, I'd really like to see LDraw II come out as well. I believe it was
Jacob's project, and I do vaguely recall some email we exchanged on the
subject. MLCad in my book is the best editor out there, though it could be
faster. Mike's very willing to incorporate the features LDraw users
demand, and that's what makes it great. Its about time we have a reliable
Windows editor.
> Oh well... I still think LDraw is on top and will retain its name as a good
> software package, rather than a file format for a long time to come.
Right. But then again, could we develop a way to refer to all programs
which utilize the LDraw .dat file format? There's just too much out there
right now, and some guidelines for terminology need to be set up.
> Adam
> PS. Good work on ldraw.org.
Thanks! (Notice the Christmas style page header through December) :)
-Tim
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| Hi Tim! One other thing... You mentioned in another group about James' background and history. One thing I would like to see is a picture of him. Can you contact his family or put feelers out. I think that would be an excellent item to add to his (...) (24 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| (...) I don't have contact with his family, but I believe James' old rivtron@... address still works. I would like to see a picture as well. If someone would like to give me his family's address, I will write. If someone else would like to write, (...) (24 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| Because of some of the more recent advancements in software which utilizes the .dat file, I have been thinking about what LDraw *is*. I think we should firmly establish what LDraw is if there are going to [and there will] be more advancements in (...) (24 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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