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At 10:24 AM 12/09/1999 , Steve Bliss wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney wrote:
> Try using terms like:
>
> LDraw -- a (mostly historical) software package for creating LEGO-type
> models on your computer.
Yes.
> ldraw.org -- the group formerly known as the L-CAD mailing list. A (very)
> loosely organized group of people, working to enhance and evangelize LDraw
> and its parts library.
Personally, I think the term 'ldraw.org' refers to the actual website. The
group of people could remain 'L-CAD' if desired, or 'The LDraw
Organization,' or something completely different. On the site, I refer to
ldraw.org as the site.
> Official ldraw.org Parts Updates -- collections of part files for LDraw,
> which have been reviewed and analyzed before release upon an unsuspecting net.
Yes.
> LDraw Parts Library -- includes both files from LDraw and OLPU's.
> LDraw Compatible Program -- program which works with or on LDraw files.
Yes. Yes.
> > I think it prudent to define and publish the
> > meaning of the word 'LDraw' when used on its own so it does not become a
> > generic term like 'Xerox,' 'Kleenex,' or 'Coke.'
>
> I know what you mean--in our house, we regularly use LDraw as a
> verb: "I've got to ldraw that model before I take it apart.", "I haven't
> ldrawn that one yet.", etc. These days, we're usually using MLCad for
> editing and displaying models, but the process is still "ldrawing".
I know from experience what you're referring to here :) I don't see any
problem with using the word 'LDraw' as a verb. Sure, Xerox might, but
we're not protecting any profits, etc.
> I could understand the argument for lumping the entire parts library (James'
> files, plus the ldraw.org updates) with the original software, and calling it
> all "LDraw". But not other software.
Would something like 'The LDraw System' work for referring to .dat format
files for parts and models, along with a piece of software which utilizes it?
> > How should
> > ldraw.org and other websites refer to the word 'LDraw?'
>
> With extreme reverence. ;)
:)
> > Another question: Because of the ambiguity of the .dat file extension on
> > computer systems, should we develop a new file extension that newer editors
> > can use?
>
> People are free to use whatever file extension they want. LDraw doesn't care.
Ok.
> My thought is that a new model-file extension would be a good idea, but is it
> really necessary to encode it in the ldraw.org pages? All the website can
> do is evangelize and bless a new standard. It can't make any programmers
> change their programs to match.
Obviously it cannot impose anything, but advocating a standard (and perhaps
if a programmer adds this in off the bat) may influence the future of LDraw
files.
> Speaking of the website, one thing www.ldraw.org really needs is a more
> complete list of the various pieces of software available.
I couldn't agree more :) What I want is for software authors to submit the
form to get a download page on ldraw.org. I'd prefer not to only link
off-site, but provide software for download on site as well as link to the
authors' site somewhere else. I believe the template is at
http://www.ldraw.org/download/template.html (but I'm not sure). Sometime
we should get an easy form up to submit.
-Tim
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http://www.ldraw.org
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