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Re: Strengthening Gears
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Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:39:27 GMT
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Plastic doesn't get stronger under heat-treatment.  This type of heat
treatment is used to control the crystallization of metals, and long-chain
polymers like plastic just don't behave like that.

If you need stronger gears, double them.  It is the axles that are the weak
point generally, though.

--Jack Gregory

Mark R. Nusekabel <zedot@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:GsHIJ7.DBI@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.technic, Thomas Avery writes:
I recently received an email from someone about strengthening gears. This
person claims that by boiling the gears and then cooling them with cold
water, their strength will increase.

Has anyone tried this? What were your results?

TJ

This sounds like the basic technique for "tempering".  You've probably • heard
of tempered glass or tempered metal.  From what I remember, this just
changes the way the strength is handled in the material.  A normal • material
bends more instead of breaking.  A tempered material won't bend as much,
which gives the impression of it being stronger; however, it is more • likely
to shatter than a normal material.  Of course, if anyone is a materials
expert (I'm not) then feel free to set me straight here.  In any case,
google finds many hits on "tempered glass", but none on "tempered • plastic",
and there's probably a reason for that ;-).

+Z+


Subject: 
Re: Strengthening Gears
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lugnet.technic
Date: 
Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:27:56 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Jack Gregory writes:
Plastic doesn't get stronger under heat-treatment.  This type of heat
treatment is used to control the crystallization of metals, and long-chain
polymers like plastic just don't behave like that.

Yes, this is true.

If you need stronger gears, double them.  It is the axles that are the weak
point generally, though.

Now that's quite a statement! I got an email yesterday from someone saying
that the axles were the weak point too.

I don't know how you're using your gears, but when something breaks in my
models, it's the gears!
http://www.texbrick.com/ideas/gears/
(see bottom of page)

TJ


Subject: 
Re: Strengthening Gears
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lugnet.technic
Date: 
Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:31:30 GMT
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I have never broken a gear.  But then, I am a mechanical engineer; I am nice
to my gears.  But I fry a lot of electronics!

My experience is that the torsional stiffness of the axles is the limiting
factor of high-torque designs.  I have permanently deformed only one,
though, and I avoid high-torque applications for this reason.  There are too
many weak points in LEGO to subject to high forces.

I was surprised when I looked at the gear breakage when it first came up
about a month or so ago.  I simply can't imagine how you can do that with a
single axle driving it, but I don't doubt you did.  I just think something
else is stressing them besides axles.

--Jack Gregory


Thomas Avery <thomas.avery@intec-hou.com> wrote in message
news:GsI86K.IK2@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.technic, Jack Gregory writes:
Plastic doesn't get stronger under heat-treatment.  This type of heat
treatment is used to control the crystallization of metals, and • long-chain
polymers like plastic just don't behave like that.

Yes, this is true.

If you need stronger gears, double them.  It is the axles that are the • weak
point generally, though.

Now that's quite a statement! I got an email yesterday from someone saying
that the axles were the weak point too.

I don't know how you're using your gears, but when something breaks in my
models, it's the gears!
http://www.texbrick.com/ideas/gears/
(see bottom of page)

TJ


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