To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.trainsOpen lugnet.trains in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Trains / 27002
     
   
Subject: 
NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.loc.au
Followup-To: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:20:32 GMT
Highlighted: 
! (details)
Viewed: 
13000 times
  

Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.



BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:40:01 GMT
Viewed: 
5482 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.



BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Brilliant! I would love to receive the MPD when available.

Keep on building!

Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 BAYLUG/BAYLTC

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:55:31 GMT
Viewed: 
5825 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.



BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Nice to see you doing steam, one day you will do one without the fancy streamlining to show the greeble underneath ;-)

The loco looks good, but I feel the streamlinedness is a bit understated, I’m sure you thought of it but I think a cone would be better for the smokebox front. I like the 1 high panels along the running plates, simple but represent the prototype well. Strangely it looks quite Russian to me.

However I think if you are going to use BBB wheels you should use them to their full potential, with coupling rods at a minimum and connecting and piston rods as well really.

Tim

Franco-Crosti boilered loco next :-P

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:12:15 GMT
Viewed: 
5722 times
  

--SNIP--
  
Nice to see you doing steam, one day you will do one without the fancy streamlining to show the greeble underneath ;-)

My L Class wasn’t streamlined :P

   The loco looks good, but I feel the streamlinedness is a bit understated, I’m sure you thought of it but I think a cone would be better for the smokebox front. I like the 1 high panels along the running plates, simple but represent the prototype well. Strangely it looks quite Russian to me.

I think the cone would be too pointy. The peak is surpringly blunt for a streamliner. I know what you mean about looking Russian. I think it might be the comparatively large boiler... and the fact that I reused a lot of tricks from my L class to make it ;)

   However I think if you are going to use BBB wheels you should use them to their full potential, with coupling rods at a minimum and connecting and piston rods as well really.

I agree but I felt that the studless technic wouldn’t do it justice and as you pointed out before the flex parts haven’t been CADded (not to mention I don’t have a clue how they work). I might pinch someone elses work (such as yours) if they’re willing to show me how it’s done.

   Tim

Franco-Crosti boilered loco next :-P

Hmmmm. That looks more up yours or Ben Beneke’s alley than mine ;)

Tim

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: Flex parts (Was NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad.dat.parts
Followup-To: 
lugnet.cad.dat.parts
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:29:03 GMT
Viewed: 
7719 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   --SNIP-- I agree but I felt that the studless technic wouldn’t do it justice and as you pointed out before the flex parts haven’t been CADded (not to mention I don’t have a clue how they work). I might pinch someone elses work (such as yours) if they’re willing to show me how it’s done.

Hmm, perhaps there a range of parts I should CAD. The flex rods are pretty simple and the tube is already done.

The older type of connector is in the Parts Tracker, as is the ball version.

The newer pin connectors are quite complicated but there are only two types and one is double version of the other. The complicated bit has also already been modelled in the ball version!

Don’t hold me to it ;-)

Tim

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:15:38 GMT
Viewed: 
6070 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.



BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Nice to see you doing steam, one day you will do one without the fancy streamlining to show the greeble underneath ;-)

The loco looks good, but I feel the streamlinedness is a bit understated, I’m sure you thought of it but I think a cone would be better for the smokebox front. I like the 1 high panels along the running plates, simple but represent the prototype well. Strangely it looks quite Russian to me.

However I think if you are going to use BBB wheels you should use them to their full potential, with coupling rods at a minimum and connecting and piston rods as well really.

Tim

Franco-Crosti boilered loco next :-P

As per usual I forgot to say half I wanted to so... I also like the greebling on the front footplate below the boiler and use of the Technic Beam 2 with Two Antistuds’ (32530) in the cylinders, coincidentally I was thinking of using that part (in a different manner) in cylinders just last night.

I have mixed views on the use of curved bricks for boilers, I’m not convinced they look any better than slope bricks, however of those two choices you picked the one which gives a greater impression of bulk which is appropriate for the proto.


Tim

PS Can somone else post a MOC, I was updating the sidebar and realised that if I cut it down to the last three MOCs is would just be the lugnet.timgould sidebar!

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:22:52 GMT
Viewed: 
6330 times
  

   As per usual I forgot to say half I wanted to so... I also like the greebling on the front footplate below the boiler and use of the Technic Beam 2 with Two Antistuds’ (32530) in the cylinders, coincidentally I was thinking of using that part (in a different manner) in cylinders just last night.

It is there for the working pistons I never added ;)

   I have mixed views on the use of curved bricks for boilers, I’m not convinced they look any better than slope bricks, however of those two choices you picked the one which gives a greater impression of bulk which is appropriate for the proto.

That is actually the second iteration of the boiler. The first used macaroni but I felt it was a little too blocky.

   Tim

PS Can somone else post a MOC, I was updating the sidebar and realised that if I cut it down to the last three MOCs is would just be the lugnet.timgould sidebar!

They did. It got spotlighted. You forgot to put it up. :P

Tim

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:36:44 GMT
Viewed: 
6425 times
  

   They did. It got spotlighted. You forgot to put it up. :P


Sorry Esben


Fixed


Tim

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:18:02 GMT
Viewed: 
6416 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
  
   They did. It got spotlighted. You forgot to put it up. :P


Sorry Esben


Fixed


Tim

Hey Tim,

What do you mean “fixed”? I still don’t see the train on the side bar :-)

And Tim, that is, the other one, Timothy Gould, I’ve been following your creations lately, and I must say, they rock! But CAD pictures will never bee the same as a real, hand made LEGO train, in my opinion... might be because I’ve never tried any CAD before :-)

Esben

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:15:24 GMT
Viewed: 
6396 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.



BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Now that’s interesting. Your boiler design is similar to what I did for a GW pannier tank engine, “Duck”. I’d love to compare how you did you snotting attachments.

I’m still working on them, but I’m building some engines for a Thomas the Tank Engine display at LEGOLAND CA. The images are a work in progress, but you get the idea. http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=170849 I’m trying to build these closer to the prototype then the videos, but they’re a mix. Check the link to see waht I mean. http://www.pegnsean.net/~railwayseries/engines.htm

Mat

Mat

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:24:14 GMT
Viewed: 
6066 times
  

Hi Mat,

   Now that’s interesting. Your boiler design is similar to what I did for a GW pannier tank engine, “Duck”. I’d love to compare how you did you snotting attachments.

Basically this arrangement:




   I’m still working on them, but I’m building some engines for a Thomas the Tank Engine display at LEGOLAND CA. The images are a work in progress, but you get the idea. http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=170849 I’m trying to build these closer to the prototype then the videos, but they’re a mix. Check the link to see waht I mean. http://www.pegnsean.net/~railwayseries/engines.htm

Mat

Good luck with it. From what I’ve heard of people who run layouts Thomas is always a big hit.

Tim

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:47:48 GMT
Viewed: 
6152 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi Mat,

   Now that’s interesting. Your boiler design is similar to what I did for a GW pannier tank engine, “Duck”. I’d love to compare how you did you snotting attachments.


Hey guys-

Just a quick weigh on this boiler design-- here is my Percy:



Sorry, don’t remember how I actually built it; I don’t even display it anymore since the Duplo Thomas sets were introduced.

Well, back to scrambling to get ready for our upcoming show this weekend:-)

JOHN

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:15:28 GMT
Viewed: 
5592 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.



BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Very nice work, CM Tim!

But please: it’s 38 Class, not Class 38. I think you’ve been too long in the UK!

Spotlighted. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers

Richie Dulin

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au
Date: 
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:16:40 GMT
Viewed: 
7288 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Richie Dulin wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.



BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Very nice work, CM Tim!

But please: it’s 38 Class, not Class 38. I think you’ve been too long in the UK!

Spotlighted. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers

Richie Dulin

Hello Tim , Richie,

Great work Tim !! One day i’ll get around to building mine.


Richie,in my very first email to Tim I called it a Class 38. So I guess its my mistake.

Are you going to put it down as a Aussie Icon ?

To All,

A brief bit of history on this train.

The 38 Class continued on from the S class, from Albany to Sydney. The S class went from Melbourne to Albany. Because Victoria and NSW had different track gauges.

Thanks, Teunis.

PS Thanks Richie, for putting up the Aboriginal flag.

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:46:30 GMT
Viewed: 
5612 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.

   BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Interesting; I didn’t know that John Deere built locomotives, too. I built this Massey Ferguson loco myself a while ago, in case anybody missed it. (I am a farmer’s son, as you may have surmised already)

I see that you have started to build in 7-wide now without feeling that you have to come up with honor-saving excuses like “I thought it was a wide gauge train”. :) That’s just great. I consider 7wide to be the coolest train scale, all things considered. It’s just that all of my MOCs have magically developed into 8-wides despite being 7- or even 6-wides in their initial versions. So now I’m sort of stuck in 8-wide (and I’m totally happy with that too).

The “Homer Simpson ‘doing shady stuff’ head cap”-as-buffer idea is very cool, and the panels on the side work great.

Benevolently /Martin

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: NSW Class 38 Streamlined steamer
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:04:40 GMT
Viewed: 
5776 times
  

In lugnet.trains, Martin Nilsson wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

Shortly after I made my Mallard Teunis Davey contacted me asking if I wanted to have a go at making a NSW Class 38. I did and this is what came out. The train is based on a modified version of the wheelset I used for the Mallard with only cosmetic changes. Lots of thanks to Teuis for ideas and suggestions along the way.

   BS Gallery

Please let me know what you think and any improvements I could make. MPD available on request.

Tim

Interesting; I didn’t know that John Deere built locomotives, too. I built this Massey Ferguson loco myself a while ago, in case anybody missed it. (I am a farmer’s son, as you may have surmised already)

Strangely enough I am a farmers nephew and a farmers grandson (times a few) but I am a city boy my whole life so no John Deere for me. That is the green and gold of Australia.

I liked that train. Especially the chain on it.

   I see that you have started to build in 7-wide now without feeling that you have to come up with honor-saving excuses like “I thought it was a wide gauge train”. :)

I’ve done seven-wide quite a few times already (but all wide gauge).

   That’s just great. I consider 7wide to be the coolest train scale, all things considered. It’s just that all of my MOCs have magically developed into 8-wides despite being 7- or even 6-wides in their initial versions. So now I’m sort of stuck in 8-wide (and I’m totally happy with that too).

I like seven-wide best in many ways but prefer the challenge of squeezing things into six. Sometimes (like this time) I’m willing to cheat a little though ;)

   The “Homer Simpson ‘doing shady stuff’ head cap”-as-buffer idea is very cool, and the panels on the side work great.

That was copied straight from the Mallard

   Benevolently /Martin

Thanks,

Tim

 

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR