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Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:18:16 GMT
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To All,

I just heard a plane crashed into the World's Trade Center. However, none,
and I mean none, of the internet sites seem to be connecting! (Fox News,
CBS, ABC, CNN, etc.)

Does anyone know anything?

I don't consider this fun, but it seems the most appropriate place!

Scott S.
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Scott Sanburn wrote:
I just heard a plane crashed into the World's Trade Center. However, none,
and I mean none, of the internet sites seem to be connecting! (Fox News,
CBS, ABC, CNN, etc.)

Does anyone know anything?

I don't consider this fun, but it seems the most appropriate place!

not sure this is the correct place for this, but washingtonpost.com has a blurb on it.

:/

Dan

    
          
     
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:36:50 GMT
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To All,

Well, I got the text for it here, sounds like two planes hit it! : (


NEW YORK — Two airplanes have crashed into the World Trade Center, igniting
huge blazes in the world's third tallest buildings in the heart of New York
City.

The crashes by two aircraft into each of the Twin Towers immediately raise
concerns that terrorists have launched an attack on the 110-story Twin Towers.

The FBI is investigating reports of a plane hijacking before the crashes.

Flames can be seen pouring out of the upper-floor windows of each of the
buildings, and smoke is billowing from the roof. Large holes are visible in
the sides of each building.

There was no immediate word on injuries or fatalities in the twin disasters,
which happened shortly before 9 a.m. and then right around 9 a.m.

"The plane was coming in low and ... it looked like it hit at a slight
angle," said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported.

"I was watching TV and heard a sonic boom ...," witness Jeanne Yurman told
CNN. "The side of the World Trade Center exploded. Debris is falling like
leaflets. I hear ambulances. The northern tower seems to be on fire."

Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over
Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower, one witness said.

In Sarasota, Fla., President Bush was reading to children in a classroom at
9:05 a.m. when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered into his ear. The
president briefly turned somber before he resumed reading.

Asked what he knew about the planes, Bush replied, "I'll talk about it later."

The towers were struck by car-bombers on Feb. 26, 1993, killing six people
and injuring more than 1,000.

More than 40,000 people work at the World Trade Center. The downtown
Manhattan complex comprises two buildings, with more than 400 firms from
over 25 countries. The complex is so big, it requires two postal zip codes.

More than 100,000 business and leisure visitors come to New York's Twin
Towers each day.

In 1945, an Army Air Corps B-25, a twin-engine bomber, crashed into the 79th
floor of the Empire State Building in dense fog.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

   
         
     
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:40:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Scott Sanburn writes:
To All,

I just heard a plane crashed into the World's Trade Center. However, none,
and I mean none, of the internet sites seem to be connecting! (Fox News,
CBS, ABC, CNN, etc.)

Does anyone know anything?

A very sad occurrence. It looks like the news sites are all buckling under
the load.

Here is what I know now (I am in Detroit in between flights... now not sure
if my next flight (to IND) is going to go, NYC flights are all cancelling),
based on TV reports:

- Shortly before 9 AM a small jet flew into the north tower. It appears that
it tried to veer away at the last sec, but was unable to. Rumor is this was
an AA regional that was hijacked. It appears to be completely embedded

- About 18 minutes later, while emergency crews were trying to deal with the
fire and explosion and evacuation, a larger aircraft (initially speculated
to be a 737) flew into the south tower. It is now believed that this was an
Airbus A320 (a 100+ passenger plus craft) which was also believed to be
hijacked.

Your best bet is TV, I can't get to the washpost site Dan mentioned.

Late breaking, I am stranded, i think, as the Detroit airport just closed.
But who cares about that. Please think kind thoughts for the victims of this
terrible series of events.

    
          
      
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Pentagon is Smoking!!
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:44:15 GMT
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NBC news is showing billowing smoke from the US Pentagon in Washington.



In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Scott Sanburn writes:
To All,

I just heard a plane crashed into the World's Trade Center. However, none,
and I mean none, of the internet sites seem to be connecting! (Fox News,
CBS, ABC, CNN, etc.)

Does anyone know anything?

A very sad occurrence. It looks like the news sites are all buckling under
the load.

Here is what I know now (I am in Detroit in between flights... now not sure
if my next flight (to IND) is going to go, NYC flights are all cancelling),
based on TV reports:

- Shortly before 9 AM a small jet flew into the north tower. It appears that
it tried to veer away at the last sec, but was unable to. Rumor is this was
an AA regional that was hijacked. It appears to be completely embedded

- About 18 minutes later, while emergency crews were trying to deal with the
fire and explosion and evacuation, a larger aircraft (initially speculated
to be a 737) flew into the south tower. It is now believed that this was an
Airbus A320 (a 100+ passenger plus craft) which was also believed to be
hijacked.

Your best bet is TV, I can't get to the washpost site Dan mentioned.

Late breaking, I am stranded, i think, as the Detroit airport just closed.
But who cares about that. Please think kind thoughts for the victims of this
terrible series of events.

     
           
      
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Re: Pentagon is Smoking!!
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:51:29 GMT
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To All,

My wife just called about the Pentagon, here is a pic from the WTC.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=68932

Definite time for prayer, I hope the emergency things are getting the
President and everyone else to safety, what a bunch of horrible events.

Scott S.
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All US flights have been grounded. Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:53:00 GMT
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All US flights have been grounded according to NBC news.



In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Scott Sanburn writes:
To All,

I just heard a plane crashed into the World's Trade Center. However, none,
and I mean none, of the internet sites seem to be connecting! (Fox News,
CBS, ABC, CNN, etc.)

Does anyone know anything?

A very sad occurrence. It looks like the news sites are all buckling under
the load.

Here is what I know now (I am in Detroit in between flights... now not sure
if my next flight (to IND) is going to go, NYC flights are all cancelling),
based on TV reports:

- Shortly before 9 AM a small jet flew into the north tower. It appears that
it tried to veer away at the last sec, but was unable to. Rumor is this was
an AA regional that was hijacked. It appears to be completely embedded

- About 18 minutes later, while emergency crews were trying to deal with the
fire and explosion and evacuation, a larger aircraft (initially speculated
to be a 737) flew into the south tower. It is now believed that this was an
Airbus A320 (a 100+ passenger plus craft) which was also believed to be
hijacked.

Your best bet is TV, I can't get to the washpost site Dan mentioned.

Late breaking, I am stranded, i think, as the Detroit airport just closed.
But who cares about that. Please think kind thoughts for the victims of this
terrible series of events.

    
          
      
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:10:19 GMT
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Well, Larry, it looks like every airport in the nation is now closed to
commercial traffic. Sit tight.

-Dave

     
           
      
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:32:11 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Dave Johann writes:
Well, Larry, it looks like every airport in the nation is now closed to
commercial traffic. Sit tight.

   As you may know, there was a third explosion at the base
   of the South Tower.  It's gone.  I can't even imagine how
   many dead there are--but people were jumping, willing to
   take their chances that way rather than stay inside according
   to reports.

   You can see the smoke from here, 30 miles away.  The North
   tower is still standing, but who knows if it was similarly
   double-sabotaged.  One plane was from Logan, the other from
   Newark apparently.

   I'm feeling very ill.  All long distance telephone service
   is down as far as I can tell--and I don't know if the Inter
   net problems are all traffic or possibly otherwise related
   to this.  People are blaring radios, and I can see them in
   the streets.  It's a calamity, and I think here it's going
   to be particularly bad because so many in Highland Park work
   in NYC and at the Trade Center.

   Keep them in your thoughts and prayers.  Does anyone else
   in the NYC area know if the authorities are yet mobilizing
   volunteers?

   Lindsay

     
           
      
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:37:25 GMT
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Here is the update from Fox News (Text)

NEW YORK — One of the World Trade Center's Twin Towers has collapsed after
two airplanes crashed into the New York City landmark in what President Bush
called "an apparent terrorist attack on our country."

An airplane also clipped the Pentagon, setting a plume of smoke rising above
Washington, D.C.

The crashes into New York's 110-story Twin Towers ignited huge blazes in the
world's third tallest buildings in the heart of New York City. Flames can be
seen pouring out of the upper-floor windows of each of the buildings, and
smoke is billowing from both roofs. Large holes are visible in the sides of
each building.

An Associated Press reporter saw the tail-end of a large airliner plunge
into the Pentagon. Smoke can be seen billowing out of the building. The
Pentagon was being evacuated.

The White House was evacuated after the Secret Service received credible
threat of a terrorist act against the presidential mansion and residence.

The Federal Aviation Administration has shut down all aircraft takeoffs
nationwide.

Abu Dhabi TV was quoted as saying in a broadcast heard from London that "The
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) claimed
responsibility for the attack."

The FBI is investigating reports of a plane hijacking before the twin
crashes into the 110-story Twin Towers.

Law enforcement sources said they believe the first plane was an American
Airlines Boeing 767 that took off from Logan Airport in Boston.

The second plane was believed to be a Boeing 737, but there was no immediate
report of its origin.

All Hudson River bridges and tunnels between New Jersey and New York were
closed as a precaution in the wake of the apparent attack.

There was no immediate word on injuries or fatalities in the World Trade
Center disasters, which happened shortly before 9 a.m. and then right around
9 a.m.

A senior government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the
FBI is pursuing reports that one or both of the planes were hijacked and
that the crashes may have been the result of a suicide mission.

The source stressed that the reports are preliminary and officials do not
know the cause of the crashes.

"It certainly doesn't look like an accident," said a second government
official, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

"The plane was coming in low and ... it looked like it hit at a slight
angle," said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported.

"I was watching TV and heard a sonic boom ...," witness Jeanne Yurman told
CNN. "The side of the World Trade Center exploded. Debris is falling like
leaflets. I hear ambulances. The northern tower seems to be on fire."

Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over
Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower, one witness said.

In Sarasota, Fla., President Bush was reading to children in a classroom at
9:05 a.m. when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered into his ear. The
president briefly turned somber before he resumed reading.

At 9:30 a.m. EDT, Bush canceled his appearance and planned to return to
Washington.

Bush said he "would hunt down those folks" responsible for the attack. He
said "terrorism against our nation will not stand."

The towers were struck by car-bombers on Feb. 26, 1993, killing six people
and injuring more than 1,000.

More than 40,000 people work at the World Trade Center. The downtown
Manhattan complex comprises two buildings, with more than 400 firms from
over 25 countries. The complex is so big, it requires two postal zip codes.

More than 100,000 business and leisure visitors come to New York's Twin
Towers each day.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

     
           
       
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:42:55 GMT
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The second Tower just fell.

According to NBC News:
A large plane just crashed S.E. of Pittsburg.

State Dept is denying report of a carbomb.

President Bush is in Florida enroute to D.C.

Julie

In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Scott Sanburn writes:
Here is the update from Fox News (Text)

NEW YORK ? One of the World Trade Center's Twin Towers has collapsed after
two airplanes crashed into the New York City landmark in what President Bush
called "an apparent terrorist attack on our country."

An airplane also clipped the Pentagon, setting a plume of smoke rising above
Washington, D.C.

The crashes into New York's 110-story Twin Towers ignited huge blazes in the
world's third tallest buildings in the heart of New York City. Flames can be
seen pouring out of the upper-floor windows of each of the buildings, and
smoke is billowing from both roofs. Large holes are visible in the sides of
each building.

An Associated Press reporter saw the tail-end of a large airliner plunge
into the Pentagon. Smoke can be seen billowing out of the building. The
Pentagon was being evacuated.

The White House was evacuated after the Secret Service received credible
threat of a terrorist act against the presidential mansion and residence.

The Federal Aviation Administration has shut down all aircraft takeoffs
nationwide.

Abu Dhabi TV was quoted as saying in a broadcast heard from London that "The
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) claimed
responsibility for the attack."

The FBI is investigating reports of a plane hijacking before the twin
crashes into the 110-story Twin Towers.

Law enforcement sources said they believe the first plane was an American
Airlines Boeing 767 that took off from Logan Airport in Boston.

The second plane was believed to be a Boeing 737, but there was no immediate
report of its origin.

All Hudson River bridges and tunnels between New Jersey and New York were
closed as a precaution in the wake of the apparent attack.

There was no immediate word on injuries or fatalities in the World Trade
Center disasters, which happened shortly before 9 a.m. and then right around
9 a.m.

A senior government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the
FBI is pursuing reports that one or both of the planes were hijacked and
that the crashes may have been the result of a suicide mission.

The source stressed that the reports are preliminary and officials do not
know the cause of the crashes.

"It certainly doesn't look like an accident," said a second government
official, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

"The plane was coming in low and ... it looked like it hit at a slight
angle," said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported.

"I was watching TV and heard a sonic boom ...," witness Jeanne Yurman told
CNN. "The side of the World Trade Center exploded. Debris is falling like
leaflets. I hear ambulances. The northern tower seems to be on fire."

Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over
Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower, one witness said.

In Sarasota, Fla., President Bush was reading to children in a classroom at
9:05 a.m. when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered into his ear. The
president briefly turned somber before he resumed reading.

At 9:30 a.m. EDT, Bush canceled his appearance and planned to return to
Washington.

Bush said he "would hunt down those folks" responsible for the attack. He
said "terrorism against our nation will not stand."

The towers were struck by car-bombers on Feb. 26, 1993, killing six people
and injuring more than 1,000.

More than 40,000 people work at the World Trade Center. The downtown
Manhattan complex comprises two buildings, with more than 400 firms from
over 25 countries. The complex is so big, it requires two postal zip codes.

More than 100,000 business and leisure visitors come to New York's Twin
Towers each day.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

     
           
      
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Scott Sanburn writes:
Bush said he "would hunt down those folks" responsible for the attack. He
said "terrorism against our nation will not stand."


Good thinking, Mr Bush! Very clever!


Am I the only one suspecting that the horrible attacks are acts in just that
very same spirit?

"Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"



Of course, my prayers go to the victims and their families...
/Tore

    
          
     
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Scott Sanburn writes:
To All,

I just heard a plane crashed into the World's Trade Center. However, none,
and I mean none, of the internet sites seem to be connecting! (Fox News,
CBS, ABC, CNN, etc.)

Does anyone know anything?

A very sad occurrence. It looks like the news sites are all buckling under
the load.

Here is what I know now (I am in Detroit in between flights... now not sure
if my next flight (to IND) is going to go, NYC flights are all cancelling),
based on TV reports:

- Shortly before 9 AM a small jet flew into the north tower. It appears that
it tried to veer away at the last sec, but was unable to. Rumor is this was
an AA regional that was hijacked. It appears to be completely embedded

- About 18 minutes later, while emergency crews were trying to deal with the
fire and explosion and evacuation, a larger aircraft (initially speculated
to be a 737) flew into the south tower. It is now believed that this was an
Airbus A320 (a 100+ passenger plus craft) which was also believed to be
hijacked.

Another 2 planes went down after that - one took out part of the Pentagon,
another crashed in bushland somewhere in Pennsylvania.

Your best bet is TV, I can't get to the washpost site Dan mentioned.


Slashdot is still surviving under the load - lots of informative posts there
(for a change).

ROSCO

   
         
   
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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:52:28 GMT
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May God be with all the victims of this terrible tragedy that has effected
not only America, but the world. Here are some updates:

-tonight's Latin Grammys have been canceled
-all MLB games have been canceled
-50 domestic flights still in the air are being permitted to land in the US
-Walt Disney World theme parks closed
-7 flights bound from Asia which are too far away to turn back are being
diverted to Haiwaii.
-22 flights bound from Europe to New York City, Boston, Detroit, Miami, and
Los Angeles that are past Greenland (which means they cannot turn back) are
being permitted to land. All the rest (ones which have not travelled past
Greenland) are being forced to turn around, as Canada's airports cannot
handle all the traffic. They are likely to land in Ireland, Finland, and
Iceland.
-Lufthansa German airlines has grounded all trans-Atlantic flights from
Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich, and Dusseldorf to not only thier 14 US
destinations, but Vancouver, Toronto, Mexico City, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires,
Caracas, Bogota, and Rio de Janiero.
-Air Canada and WestJet have suspened all flights.
-4 Iberia Airlines flights bound from Central America to Miami have been
diverted to the Caribbean
-All flights bound from Latin America to US are either turning back or
landing in the Caribbean
-Downtown Miami has been closed down, including all private and public
buildings, stores, and office towers. Some apartments being evacuated.
Pretty much only thing running is the subway. With the shut-down of Wall
Street, Miami's Brickell Avenue is the largest financial district in the
United States, and you can imagine the precautions they are taking.
-In Chicago, Sears Tower evacutated
-In Seattle, Space Needle evacuated
-All sksycrapers closed in Minneapolis, Boston, San Francisco, and Clevland,
among other cities.

 

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