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Subject: 
Re: -America under Attack-
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lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.fun
Date: 
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:34:06 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Pedro Silva writes:
In lugnet.general, Josh Baakko writes:
I find this all so amazing, they claimed the buildings were built to
withstand a 707 hitting them!  I personally watched BOTH towers collapse LIVE

I am not an expert on this, but I heard on TV that no building can withstand
such prolonged burnings without partial or total collapse. My dad told me
that the concrete turns to dust at 1200ºC, and then steel melts down,
causing structural failure.

Mark wrote:
They both survived the initial impact without a problem, the resulting
uncontrolled fire and damage afterwards is what unfortunately brought down
both towers. Considering the damage and the attack in 1993, I am surprised they
lasted as long as they did.

Interesting...


But this is what really bothers me.
I can see the World Trade Center being taken-out, but not the Pentagon?!?

Isn't there a -'no-fly-zone'- surrounding this area and the White House?
I mean, where are all the response jets.
(Not even an active counter measure was initiated at the time.)
Yes, I've heard that F-16 were dispatched later on, but aren't their units
designed for rapid response for any intrusion into this specialized
government area.
Not even a military Helicopter on a near by landing pad attempted to intercept.
Surely an Apache/Cobra (or whatever) could have sprung into action and used
its mini guns to disable the commercial jet?

It’s easy to engage an external threat to Washington.
(Missile or foreign attack squadron coming over seas.)
But I guess any local passenger jets pose a real problem…

Another note…
Once everyone talks about Terrorism they think of foreign invaders.
BUT, what if these attackers were from an internal group.
Similar to the events of Oklahoma.
Just a lugubrious thought.      :(


                                --==Richard==--



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  Re: -America under Attack-
 
(...) Nope--the Pentagon is on the approach corridor to Reagan airport. It's close enough, anyways, that there's too little time between deviation from the corridor to impact. The jet's moving about 300mph--it takes time to scramble a fighter/ (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: -America under Attack-
 
To clarify a few things... (...) Yes there is a no fly zone over most of D.C., however the Pentagon is in the direct flight path for Dulles International Airport. This posses the risk of something like this happening. (...) It is very difficult to (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: -America under Attack-
 
(...) It's obvious there's some sort of strategy here. What I've formualted is that some sort of foreign bad man/evil govt wants to make us look like clowns. The targets put the government to almost an utter halt. The stock markets is closed. (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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  Re: -America under Attack-
 
I find this all so amazing, they claimed the buildings were built to withstand a 707 hitting them! I personaly watched BOTH towers colapse LIVE on tv. i missed the pentagon partical colapse my 2 minutes. I've also head that they are actully landing (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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