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Since we don't yet have any idea about what the LEGO Direct Bulk Sales
policy is all about, I did want to mention a few things. One is that we
shouldn't expect any great bargains in purchasing via bulk orders. I
don't think TLC is going to undercut their Retailers. Whatever prices
LEGO Direct charges us will probably be close to retail, not wholesale.
Back in the 1980's when Bulk Sales were still allowed, TLC charged a
minimum 10 cents for any piece, with a 100 piece/type minimum. (Yes,
100 1x1 plates did cost $10.) Now I cannot predict what they will be
doing for minimum/maximum bulk sales. But AFOLs should not expect parts
that cost only 2 or 3 cents.
Gary Istok
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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
> Since we don't yet have any idea about what the LEGO Direct Bulk Sales
> policy is all about, I did want to mention a few things. One is that we
> shouldn't expect any great bargains in purchasing via bulk orders. I
> don't think TLC is going to undercut their Retailers. Whatever prices
> LEGO Direct charges us will probably be close to retail, not wholesale.
>
> Back in the 1980's when Bulk Sales were still allowed, TLC charged a
> minimum 10 cents for any piece, with a 100 piece/type minimum. (Yes,
> 100 1x1 plates did cost $10.) Now I cannot predict what they will be
> doing for minimum/maximum bulk sales. But AFOLs should not expect parts
> that cost only 2 or 3 cents.
I would have to agree with you on this one. I don't expect to get any real
bargans because if things are to cheap there will be little to no incentive for
us to buy sets. I am hoping for some sort of declining scale though so that
the more you buy the less you pay per part.
I am also don't think we should expect much from the part selection either, at
least not at first. I think they need to offer at least what has been
available in service packs in terms of Bricks, Plates, and Slopes to start with
so that we can at least get what we could with the service packs. I am then
hopeing they will make a wider selection of colors available in those parts.
Anything after that is anyones guess I think.
Not looking for much just more than what the Service Packs offered.
Eric Kingsley
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
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In lugnet.general, Eric Kingsley writes:
> In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
> > Since we don't yet have any idea about what the LEGO Direct Bulk Sales
> > policy is all about, I did want to mention a few things. One is that we
> > shouldn't expect any great bargains in purchasing via bulk orders. I
> > don't think TLC is going to undercut their Retailers. Whatever prices
> > LEGO Direct charges us will probably be close to retail, not wholesale.
>
> I would have to agree with you on this one. I don't expect to get any real
> bargans because if things are to cheap there will be little to no incentive
> for us to buy sets.
I definitely agree with the above... I think that any savings to be had via
bulk orders will come from the fact that you're not buying 20 sets to get 100
of one type of piece-- and I think a lot of people (like myself) WANT to go out
and buy tons of one set to get lots of a particular piece, but can't afford
it... this puts that goal more in reach-- at some point I'll be able to call up
and say "I want 500 dark grey 2x4 bricks", rather than going out and buying 100
Rock Raiders sets or something, which I couldn't afford... and in that respect,
I wouldn't be dissatisfied with as much as $.20 apiece... It's certainly
cheaper than buying other sets, and it's more guaranteed than an auction (which
can also be more expensive, depending)... Anyway, from what it sounds like so
far, it sounds like a very good thing...
DaveE
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:43:35 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:
> Back in the 1980's when Bulk Sales were still allowed, TLC charged a
> minimum 10 cents for any piece, with a 100 piece/type minimum. (Yes,
> 100 1x1 plates did cost $10.) Now I cannot predict what they will be
> doing for minimum/maximum bulk sales. But AFOLs should not expect parts
> that cost only 2 or 3 cents.
I'll gladly pay a quarter each for forest maidens. :)
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http://www.guarded-inn.com/bricks/
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Eric Kingsley wrote:
> In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
> > Since we don't yet have any idea about what the LEGO Direct Bulk Sales
> > policy is all about, I did want to mention a few things. One is that we
> > shouldn't expect any great bargains in purchasing via bulk orders. I
> > don't think TLC is going to undercut their Retailers. Whatever prices
> > LEGO Direct charges us will probably be close to retail, not wholesale.
> >
> > Back in the 1980's when Bulk Sales were still allowed, TLC charged a
> > minimum 10 cents for any piece, with a 100 piece/type minimum. (Yes,
> > 100 1x1 plates did cost $10.) Now I cannot predict what they will be
> > doing for minimum/maximum bulk sales. But AFOLs should not expect parts
> > that cost only 2 or 3 cents.
>
>
> I would have to agree with you on this one. I don't expect to get any real
> bargans because if things are to cheap there will be little to no incentive for
> us to buy sets. I am hoping for some sort of declining scale though so that
> the more you buy the less you pay per part.
>
> I am also don't think we should expect much from the part selection either, at
> least not at first. I think they need to offer at least what has been
> available in service packs in terms of Bricks, Plates, and Slopes to start with
> so that we can at least get what we could with the service packs. I am then
> hopeing they will make a wider selection of colors available in those parts.
> Anything after that is anyones guess I think.
>
> Not looking for much just more than what the Service Packs offered.
>
> Eric Kingsley
>
> The New England LEGO Users Group
> http://www.nelug.org/
Eric, You may be right about what is available in service packs, but I'm keeping my
fingers crossed for a little bit more. Such as:
Train Windows - I don't use them, I don't need them. But I bet that the enormous
PR and good will that the Train folks have generated with TLC will earn them the
right to get train windows as a bulk item. They deserve them!
Town Windows - This is my greatest wish for bulk sales. I would love to buy
thousands, and without having to buy any doors! I'd love to see a skyscraper
contest
Arches/cylinder bricks/tiles/plates/slopes - I can only begin to imagine what a
new "Acropolis Contest" (formerly sponsored by Erik Wilson) might produce when
people can build in unlimited quantites -- columns, colonades, and classic
embellishments in their Greek/Roman temples, circuses, ampitheaters, aquaducts and
forums. I'm already drooling at the thought of buying a few thousand 2x2 white
cylinder bricks as well as white 2x2 tiles...... (I'd like to build the Temple of
Diana at Epheseus - one of the 7 Wonders of the Ancient World). Hey we could have
an "Ancient Wonders Contest"!
And then there's everything else - pitchforks, damsels, highly specialized pieces,
etc. These might have the least chance of availability in bulk sales. But until
Lego Direct comes out with a bulk sales policy, one can only speculate. We don't
really know.
Gary Istok
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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
> Eric Kingsley wrote:
> > In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
> > >
> > > Back in the 1980's when Bulk Sales were still allowed, TLC charged a
> > > minimum 10 cents for any piece, with a 100 piece/type minimum. (Yes,
> > > 100 1x1 plates did cost $10.) Now I cannot predict what they will be
> > > doing for minimum/maximum bulk sales. But AFOLs should not expect parts
> > > that cost only 2 or 3 cents.
That actually isn't too bad compared to some auctions. Although I think 5
cents would be plenty for 1x1 plates.
> >
> > I would have to agree with you on this one. I don't expect to get any real
> > bargans because if things are to cheap there will be little to no incentive
> > for us to buy sets. I am hoping for some sort of declining scale though so
> > that the more you buy the less you pay per part.
I wouldn't expect them to have special parts available to begin with, so that
is a perfect incentive to get sets. I would like to see Bricks, Plates,
Slopes, and Windows decently priced, though.
> >
> > I am also don't think we should expect much from the part selection either,
> > at least not at first. I think they need to offer at least what has been
> > available in service packs in terms of Bricks, Plates, and Slopes to start
> > with so that we can at least get what we could with the service packs. I
> > am then hopeing they will make a wider selection of colors available in
> > those parts. Anything after that is anyones guess I think.
> >
> > Not looking for much just more than what the Service Packs offered.
However, service packs are vital, IMO. For example, who really needs to order
100 digger buckets or stretchers? These low volume items should be sold in
service packs so we can still get them without having scores of extras.
>
> Eric, You may be right about what is available in service packs, but I'm
> keeping my fingers crossed for a little bit more. Such as:
>
> Town Windows - This is my greatest wish for bulk sales. I would love to buy
> thousands, and without having to buy any doors! I'd love to see a skyscraper
> contest
These are a vital part in the starting bulk inventory, especially in colors
such as White and Black. Doors, on the other hand, should be a service pack.
The consumer purchases either "Set Number #### Black Doors" or "Set Number
#### 4-Pane Door in All Colors"
>
> Arches/cylinder bricks/tiles/plates/slopes - I can only begin to imagine what
> a new "Acropolis Contest" (formerly sponsored by Erik Wilson) might produce
> when people can build in unlimited quantites -- columns, colonades, and
> classic embellishments in their Greek/Roman temples, circuses, ampitheaters,
> aquaducts and forums. I'm already drooling at the thought of buying a few
> thousand 2x2 white cylinder bricks as well as white 2x2 tiles...... (I'd like
> to build the Temple of Diana at Epheseus - one of the 7 Wonders of the Ancient
> World). Hey we could have an "Ancient Wonders Contest"!
Yes, I feel that these are a must, especially Tiles and Cyliner Bricks (esp.
macaronis).
> And then there's everything else - pitchforks, damsels, highly specialized
> pieces, etc. These might have the least chance of availability in bulk sales.
> But until Lego Direct comes out with a bulk sales policy, one can only
> speculate. We don't really know.
Most of these would probably work better as a service pack. Although, I know a
lot of us would order bulk pitchforks immediately if they were available.
Another part that I feel should be included in the initial bulk offering is
Castle Wall pieces, in gray, black, dark gray, and white. Both Pirate fans and
Castle fans would order lots of these, I think.
Jeff
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In lugnet.general, Jeff Stembel writes:
> Another part that I feel should be included in the initial bulk offering is
> Castle Wall pieces, in gray, black, dark gray, and white. Both Pirate fans
> and Castle fans would order lots of these, I think.
Not this castle fan. If I have the option of ordering wall pieces or ordering
bricks and arches, the bricks and arches will win every time.
James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/
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In lugnet.general, James Brown writes:
> In lugnet.general, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > Another part that I feel should be included in the initial bulk offering is
> > Castle Wall pieces, in gray, black, dark gray, and white. Both Pirate fans
> > and Castle fans would order lots of these, I think.
>
> Not this castle fan. If I have the option of ordering wall pieces or ordering
> bricks and arches, the bricks and arches will win every time.
>
> James
> http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/
Well, I know there'd be some who'd rather have the bricks, but I think the
majority of us would get the wall pieces. I think it'd be cheaper, and for me,
that makes a big difference.
Jeff
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Jeff Stembel wrote:
> In lugnet.general, James Brown writes:
> > In lugnet.general, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > > Another part that I feel should be included in the initial bulk offering is
> > > Castle Wall pieces, in gray, black, dark gray, and white. Both Pirate fans
> > > and Castle fans would order lots of these, I think.
> >
> > Not this castle fan. If I have the option of ordering wall pieces or ordering
> > bricks and arches, the bricks and arches will win every time.
> >
> > James
> > http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/
>
> Well, I know there'd be some who'd rather have the bricks, but I think the
> majority of us would get the wall pieces. I think it'd be cheaper, and for me,
> that makes a big difference.
>
> Jeff
I'm a Town person, but I guess this must be the Castle version of the
"Juniorization" argument. Castle Junior? :-)
Gary Istok
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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
> Jeff Stembel wrote:
> > In lugnet.general, James Brown writes:
> > > In lugnet.general, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > > > Another part that I feel should be included in the initial bulk offering
> > > > is Castle Wall pieces, in gray, black, dark gray, and white. Both Pirate
> > > > fans and Castle fans would order lots of these, I think.
> > >
> > > Not this castle fan. If I have the option of ordering wall pieces or
> > > ordering bricks and arches, the bricks and arches will win every time.
> >
> > Well, I know there'd be some who'd rather have the bricks, but I think the
> > majority of us would get the wall pieces. I think it'd be cheaper, and for
> > me, that makes a big difference.
>
> I'm a Town person, but I guess this must be the Castle version of the
> "Juniorization" argument. Castle Junior? :-)
Heh... Not really. I like the wall pieces too; 6080 is my favorite castle,
not least because it has 30(!) of these... But there's only so many of them I
can use... (last count put me (and my wife) at (well) over 100 grey, over 50
black and over 50 dark grey.
Bricks on the other hand...well, you can't get enough bricks. There's a
reason this line is in my roll call....
"Favorite Piece(s)/Minifigure(s): basic bricks, arches, plates & tiles."
:)
James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/
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Gary Istok wrote:
> Town Windows - This is my greatest wish for bulk sales. I would love to buy
> thousands, and without having to buy any doors! I'd love to see a skyscraper
> contest
Well, I know you don't normally like 1x4x3s, but I think I have about 100 of them at
home, brand new, from Dacta packs - red, of course ;-)
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Jeff Stembel wrote/:
> These [windows] are a vital part in the starting bulk inventory, especially in colors
> such as White and Black. Doors, on the other hand, should be a service pack.
> The consumer purchases either "Set Number #### Black Doors" or "Set Number
> #### 4-Pane Door in All Colors"
I know I'm weird, but I use a LOT of doors. Like, 11 in a recent
house... 20+ in a school or a hospital. What I want is doors in more
kinds - how about a plain flat door with no windows for internal doors?
Kevin
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> Another part that I feel should be included in the initial bulk offering is
> Castle Wall pieces, in gray, black, dark gray, and white. Both Pirate fans and
> Castle fans would order lots of these, I think.
>
> Jeff
Don't forget yellow, for the pirate guys. And the corner walls. And mabie some
patterns (Stickers???)
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> Heh... Not really. I like the wall pieces too; 6080 is my favorite castle,
> not least because it has 30(!) of these... But there's only so many of them I
> can use... (last count put me (and my wife) at (well) over 100 grey, over 50
> black and over 50 dark grey.
50 dk grey??? Where did you get those???
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Jeff Stembel (<FnzEGt.Ex1@lugnet.com>) wrote at
20:05:17
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> Well, I know there'd be some who'd rather have the bricks, but I think the
> majority of us would get the wall pieces. I think it'd be cheaper, and for me,
> that makes a big difference.
Hey, bricks *and* wall sections would be nice.
But only if they introduce another section that *doesn't* have a window
in it.
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Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.general, Tony Priestman writes:
> But only if they introduce another section that *doesn't* have a window
> in it.
You said a mouthful, Tony!
Tyco made windowless walls which are actually pretty cool. But unlike Tyco
walls, the walls should have the cut out corners of Lego walls to retain the
strength of building in that staggered brick, or interlocking, manner.
My two cents...
-- Richard
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In lugnet.general, Jonathan Wilson writes:
> > Heh... Not really. I like the wall pieces too; 6080 is my favorite castle,
> > not least because it has 30(!) of these... But there's only so many of them • I
> > can use... (last count put me (and my wife) at (well) over 100 grey, over 50
> > black and over 50 dark grey.
>
> 50 dk grey??? Where did you get those???
Some from eBay or trading, but mostly from multiple copies of 6097 Night Lord's
Castle.
Actually, I did a quick count when I got home to make sure my numbers weren't
out to lunch, and I underestimated, for the most part. (~170 grey and ~90 dk
grey)
James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/
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Kevin Wilson <70641.507@compuserve.com> wrote in message
<38766704.FC46B2CE@compuserve.com>...
> Jeff Stembel wrote/:
>
> > These [windows] are a vital part in the starting bulk inventory, • especially in colors
> > such as White and Black. Doors, on the other hand, should be a service • pack.
> > The consumer purchases either "Set Number #### Black Doors" or "Set Number
> > #### 4-Pane Door in All Colors"
>
> I know I'm weird, but I use a LOT of doors. Like, 11 in a recent
> house... 20+ in a school or a hospital. What I want is doors in more
> kinds - how about a plain flat door with no windows for internal doors?
If you can hide a door frame with a thickness of 2 (or are willing to cut),
the older 3+ doors are in a 2x4x5 frame with a solid door which looks just
like a typical old style wood paneled interior (or exterior) door. Available
in white, red, yellow, and pink doors to my knowledge (and red, yellow, and
pink door frames). The pink door is a pink midway between the two primary
Belville pinks, the frame is the same light pink. There are 2x4x3 windows
which go with the doors. They have a single opening insert with 4 panes.
Frank
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