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Announcing new set database
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LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Improvements over the previous database include:

New Display Options
   Chose compact lists, thumbnails, or fully-detailed pages to browse through.

Smarter Searches
   Display any range of set numbers, or use product category names to get
   better results returned to you.

Integrated Shopping
   See a set you like?  If it's available for sale online, check the LUGNET
   Brickwise™[1] mini-report righ there on the set page.

Set Tracking
   If you're a LUGNET Member[2], you can add your own notes right on the set
   pages.  You can also mark a set as owned, want-to-buy, or want-to-sell.
   This can help you find the sets you need to be complete.

Members' Choice
   LUGNET Members[2] can also rank the best (and worst) sets of all time by
   casting votes with a new Rating System appearing with each set's page.

Have fun!
--Todd & Suz

[1] LUGNET Brickwise™ Shopping Report:  http://guide.lugnet.com/shop/
[2] LUGNET Membership:  http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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   Looks great!  I like the integrated shopping feature too.

Brian

In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Improvements over the previous database include:

New Display Options
  Chose compact lists, thumbnails, or fully-detailed pages to browse through.

Smarter Searches
  Display any range of set numbers, or use product category names to get
  better results returned to you.

Integrated Shopping
  See a set you like?  If it's available for sale online, check the LUGNET
  Brickwise™[1] mini-report righ there on the set page.

Set Tracking
  If you're a LUGNET Member[2], you can add your own notes right on the set
  pages.  You can also mark a set as owned, want-to-buy, or want-to-sell.
  This can help you find the sets you need to be complete.

Members' Choice
  LUGNET Members[2] can also rank the best (and worst) sets of all time by
  casting votes with a new Rating System appearing with each set's page.

Have fun!
--Todd & Suz

[1] LUGNET Brickwise™ Shopping Report:  http://guide.lugnet.com/shop/
[2] LUGNET Membership:  http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/


Whoa, this is way cool!  Awesome ideas!  I've got a few Q's and suggestions
tho:

1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

2)  Do the Private collection notes simply remain in the boxes, or should a
new addition on the page appear after hitting update? (like with the Public
collection)

3)  Will the presumed-to-eventually-be-massive Public Collection info on each
page appreciably slow the database?  Will there be an option to browse without
seeing those, but simply a link to look at them if desired?

4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

5)  Where/how do we now submit info for the database?  Maybe there needs to be
a little noted added about where to email info to.  I've been using
themes@lugnet.org (I think).


Thanx!
KDJ
________________________________________________________
Kyle D. Jackson, LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada

    
          
      
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:37:35 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

OK, sorry 'bout that.  Do you think it would it help if there were another
"update" button below the rate box?


2)  Do the Private collection notes simply remain in the boxes, or should a
new addition on the page appear after hitting update? (like with the Public
collection)

For now, they're in the box, but probably tomorrow your own personal notes
will also appear along the top...  It's just a loose end to tidy up, and we
wanted to make a cut and and put this up tonight.


3)  Will the presumed-to-eventually-be-massive Public Collection info on
each page appreciably slow the database?  Will there be an option to browse
without seeing those, but simply a link to look at them if desired?

If it gets too long of a list, we could put it on a sub-page.  Someday ya I
think it would be helpful to be able to disable the view of that through some
preference.


4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like the
one shown here?--

   http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/


5)  Where/how do we now submit info for the database?

Nowhere yet, but prolly soon.

--Todd


Maybe there needs to be a little noted added about where to email info to.
I've been using themes@lugnet.org (I think).

     
           
       
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:35:06 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like the
one shown here?--

  http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/

I think Kyle meant (and even if he didn't, *I'd* like to see it) is that
you can currently get a thumbnail-list by theme, like
<http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=*space&qn=20>.  But it would be nice to be
able to get the same list, but limited to a subtheme, like M:Tron.

And, in another message, Kevin Wilson mentions:

Something I'd like to be able to see would be searching by two different
items eg theme and date, so I could see all the Space sets in 1987. As
an alternative, being able to sort the result set by year, or price, or
number of pieces would be useful (especially year).

Oh, yeah!  I've wanted that for a long time.

Steve

      
            
       
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Re: Announcing new set database
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In lugnet.admin.database, Steve Bliss writes:
I think Kyle meant (and even if he didn't, *I'd* like to see it) is that
you can currently get a thumbnail-list by theme, like
<http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=*space&qn=20>.  But it would be nice to be
able to get the same list, but limited to a subtheme, like M:Tron.

Well, actually, that link above lists any sets within a category containing
the component word "space" -- which in this case includes accessories and
Dacta categories.

If you want *just* LEGO SYSTEM Space sets, click the link that says _Space_
in one of the theme thingies that looks like this:

   _LEGO_ > _SYSTEM_ > _Space_ > _etc_

and that'll bring you here:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=lego/system/space

Similarly, if you want *just* LEGO SYSTEM Space M:Tron sets, click a link
that says _M:Tron_ (or do a search for "m:tron" and click it) and that'll
bring you here:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=lego/system/space/mtron

which shows the 9 M:Tron sets (those and only those).

--Todd

p.s.  LEGO doesn't use the word "theme" or "subtheme" -- it's something
JoshuaD says I made-up a while back that unfortunately stuck.  M:Tron is
actually a "play theme" within the LEGO Space System (a.k.a. LEGO SYSTEM
Space).  Thus, Space and Castle aren't themes -- they're systems.  M:Tron
and Ninja are play themes.  (If you wanna be fully A/R about it.  :-)

     
           
      
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Re: Announcing new set database
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

OK, sorry 'bout that.  Do you think it would it help if there were another
"update" button below the rate box?


Yeah, that works.  Thanx!


4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure • for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like • the
one shown here?--

  http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/


Yeah, that's kind of what I meant.  I just noted that the "quick start"
list wasn't expandable or anything so that I could click directly
on a specific sub-theme or whatever.  Going to a major them, and
then browing the thumbnails until I find a member of a sub-theme,
and then clicking on that link next to it to get the rest of the
sub-theme just seemed a little clunky  :]


Thanx,
KDJ
________________________________________________________
Kyle D. Jackson, LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada

     
           
      
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Repost to Todd (Was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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G'day Todd,

I was wondering about the outcome of the thread below
that we had a while back.  Essentially, it concerned
the new set guide only having quick links to major
themes, but no (expandable) tree to allow direct
access to a sub-theme.  For example, to see all the
sets in Classic Space (without using those search
terms) I need to select Space here:

http://guide.lugnet.com/

and then click on the {Classic} in the first classic
space set I find in the guide.  Is a
browse-down-to-subtheme feature still planned?

Thanx,
KDJ
_______________________________________
LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada


In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure • for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like • the
one shown here?--

  http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/


Yeah, that's kind of what I meant.  I just noted that the "quick start"
list wasn't expandable or anything so that I could click directly
on a specific sub-theme or whatever.  Going to a major them, and
then browing the thumbnails until I find a member of a sub-theme,
and then clicking on that link next to it to get the rest of the
sub-theme just seemed a little clunky  :]


Thanx,
KDJ
________________________________________________________
Kyle D. Jackson, LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada

     
           
      
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Re: Repost to Todd (Was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
Is a browse-down-to-subtheme feature still planned?

Yes

--Todd

     
           
      
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Re: Repost to Todd (Was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
Is a browse-down-to-subtheme feature still planned?

Yes


Okey-dokey.

Thanx,
KDJ
_______________________________________
LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada

    
          
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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"Kyle D. Jackson" <flightdeck@sympatico.deletethisspamblock.ca> writes:

1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

P.S.: this is propably off-topic in this group. Which
news-group does it belong into?


Regards,
Hakan

--
"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"

    
          
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your
local currency.  There may also be other AFOL's in your country who do
business with people in the U.S. regularly by which you might be able to
send a payment through indirectly.  Or maybe a few people might get together
and send one bank cheque.  You could certainly post to your loc group and
ask around...   http://news.lugnet.com/loc/  and find your country listed.


P.S.: this is propably off-topic in this group. Which
news-group does it belong into?

.admin.general or .people, I guess.

--Todd

    
          
      
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:

In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your

Sending USD in a letter (and accepting the risk of having the
sum stolen) seems to be the most acceptable version to me. What would
the postal adress be? A (rather quick) check at lugnet.com didn't
turn up an adress.


Regards,
Hakan


--
"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"

     
           
       
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Re: Announcing new set database
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In lugnet.admin.general, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Sending USD in a letter (and accepting the risk of having the
sum stolen) seems to be the most acceptable version to me. What would
the postal adress be? A (rather quick) check at lugnet.com didn't
turn up an adress.

Hakan,
After you fill out the enrollment form,

   http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/join/enroll.html

the server will later send a confirmation e-mail which will include the
mailing address.

--Todd

     
           
      
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Selam,

Haklisin, "cash in envelop" her zaman kullandigim metod, ve simdiye
kadar hep calisti (70 den fazla)..:-) Ancak parayi bir-iki normal sayfa
arasina saklamayi ihmal etme.

Selçuk

PS. Sorry for the language people..:-) But Hakan is the first here
(after 3 years) in lugnet (and RTL) who I can speak in my own language.


Hakan Tandogan wrote:

Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:

In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your

        Sending USD in a letter (and accepting the risk of having the
sum stolen) seems to be the most acceptable version to me. What would
the postal adress be? A (rather quick) check at lugnet.com didn't
turn up an adress.

        Regards,
                Hakan

--
"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"

    
          
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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You can send the money directly i you are willing to take the risk...
It worked well from Sweden. (If you get the adress right...)
Other option are way to expensive.
/Jocke

"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:G0xw9r.MHy@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've • been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your
local currency.  There may also be other AFOL's in your country who do
business with people in the U.S. regularly by which you might be able to
send a payment through indirectly.  Or maybe a few people might get • together
and send one bank cheque.  You could certainly post to your loc group and
ask around...   http://news.lugnet.com/loc/  and find your country listed.


P.S.: this is propably off-topic in this group. Which
news-group does it belong into?

.admin.general or .people, I guess.

--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Just browsing through the thumbnails makes me pine over many old sets...

I must say this is a definite improvement. Thanks Todd and Suz!

In lugnet.announce, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

-Tom McD.

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Todd & Suz wrote:

LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:


Looks good!

Something I'd like to be able to see would be searching by two different
items eg theme and date, so I could see all the Space sets in 1987. As
an alternative, being able to sort the result set by year, or price, or
number of pieces would be useful (especially year).

Are the minifig searches from Fibblesmork going to be rolled into this
new guide some time? It was/is really useful to know which sets a
particular minifig appeared in.

Kevin
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Re: Announcing new set database
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In lugnet.admin.database, Kevin Wilson writes:
Looks good!
Thanks!

Something I'd like to be able to see would be searching by two different
items eg theme and date, so I could see all the Space sets in 1987.

I think we'll need to add some kind of advanced search.  Right now if you
do some URL hacking you can get it to do logical-or, IIRC, on the theme
(category) and date (year), but of course it needs to be logical-and instead.

As an alternative, being able to sort the result set by year, or price, or
number of pieces would be useful (especially year).

Ya, that would rock!

Are the minifig searches from Fibblesmork going to be rolled into this
new guide some time?

Yes, some time, but we're not sure when.

It was/is really useful to know which sets a particular minifig appeared in.

I think Huw Millington's database called BrickSet shows this info for many of
the sets.

--Todd

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Kevin Wilson writes:
Looks good!
Thanks!

I'll heartily 2nd this! A very good improvement to the DB interface!

Something I'd like to be able to see would be searching by two different
items eg theme and date, so I could see all the Space sets in 1987.

I think we'll need to add some kind of advanced search.  Right now if you
do some URL hacking you can get it to do logical-or, IIRC, on the theme
(category) and date (year), but of course it needs to be logical-and instead.

I'll also heartily 2nd this! There have been a number of times when I'm
looking for, say, a town set that came out between 1984 and 1987, for example--
and perhaps I even know that it's got more than 100 pieces... It'd be very
handy to be able to include search criteria like this.

As for what I'd want to search by in an advanced search:
-Set Number (or range)
-Set Name (or close to it)
-Year (or range)
-Theme
-Piece count (usually range)

As an alternative, being able to sort the result set by year, or price, or
number of pieces would be useful (especially year).

Ya, that would rock!

Hadn't ever thought of that, but while I'm at it, I'll 2nd this too :)

Looks great!
DaveE

   
         
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Excellent work Todd and Suz.

One image problem with 1733 {Shipwrecked Pirate},
it shows the image for 1731 (imagined being shipwrecked on Ice Planet)

pete.w <aquanaut@optusnet.com.au>

   
         
     
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Todd & Suz <admin@lugnet.com> wrote:
  Chose compact lists, thumbnails, or fully-detailed pages to browse through.

Very nice!

One little request: would it be possible to set a cookie or a preference so
that the pictures default to being large sized, for those of us lucky enough
to have high-speed net access?




--
Matthew Miller                     --->                 mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                    --->              http://quotes-r-us.org/
Boston University Linux            --->               http://linux.bu.edu/

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Matthew Miller writes:
One little request: would it be possible to set a cookie or a preference so
that the pictures default to being large sized, for those of us lucky enough
to have high-speed net access?

The 'large' images can be virtually any size -- some are more than 800 wide,
I think, so what we were thinking of doing is generating a selection of larger
thumbnails on 100-pixel boundaries...  Right now there are 80x80 and 200x200
and then the full-size image, whatever that turns out to be.  If it offered a
selection of, say, 300x300, 400x400, 500x500, 600x600, etc., through some
preference or detecting it on-the-fly using JS, how does that sound?

--Todd

    
          
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
thumbnails on 100-pixel boundaries...  Right now there are 80x80 and 200x200
and then the full-size image, whatever that turns out to be.  If it offered a
selection of, say, 300x300, 400x400, 500x500, 600x600, etc., through some
preference or detecting it on-the-fly using JS, how does that sound?

That'd be great. I'd probably want 400x400 or 500x500.

Thanks!

--
Matthew Miller                     --->                 mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                    --->              http://quotes-r-us.org/
Boston University Linux            --->               http://linux.bu.edu/

    
          
     
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On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:59:05PM +0000, Matthew Miller wrote:
Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
thumbnails on 100-pixel boundaries...  Right now there are 80x80 and 200x200
and then the full-size image, whatever that turns out to be.  If it offered a
selection of, say, 300x300, 400x400, 500x500, 600x600, etc., through some
preference or detecting it on-the-fly using JS, how does that sound?

That'd be great. I'd probably want 400x400 or 500x500.

'sides, doing it automagically with JS would be very neat... I wouldn't know
how, but I'm not a java nut :)

Dan

   
         
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Improvements over the previous database include:


How about integrated parts cross-reference?
That's the new feature we need the most.

KL

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Kevin Loch writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/
Improvements over the previous database include:

How about integrated parts cross-reference?
That's the new feature we need the most.

Yup, I know.  :-)

--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Very nice job!

Finally we have the range search ability..:-) Once we discussed fuzzy
search with keywords, do you consider implementing this some time? (I
mean searching by set characteristics, for example "red technic truck",
"aircraft", etc.)

Selçuk

Todd & Suz wrote:

LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Improvements over the previous database include:

New Display Options
   Chose compact lists, thumbnails, or fully-detailed pages to browse through.

Smarter Searches
   Display any range of set numbers, or use product category names to get
   better results returned to you.

Integrated Shopping
   See a set you like?  If it's available for sale online, check the LUGNET
   Brickwise™[1] mini-report righ there on the set page.

Set Tracking
   If you're a LUGNET Member[2], you can add your own notes right on the set
   pages.  You can also mark a set as owned, want-to-buy, or want-to-sell.
   This can help you find the sets you need to be complete.

Members' Choice
   LUGNET Members[2] can also rank the best (and worst) sets of all time by
   casting votes with a new Rating System appearing with each set's page.

Have fun!
--Todd & Suz

[1] LUGNET Brickwise™ Shopping Report:  http://guide.lugnet.com/shop/
[2] LUGNET Membership:  http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Selçuk Göre writes:
Very nice job!

Thanks!

Finally we have the range search ability..:-) Once we discussed fuzzy
search with keywords, do you consider implementing this some time? (I
mean searching by set characteristics, for example "red technic truck",
"aircraft", etc.)

Yes...not sure when, but that's still an eventual goal.  It will probably
happen first with the elements database.

--Todd

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Selçuk Göre writes:
Very nice job!

Thanks!

Finally we have the range search ability..:-) Once we discussed fuzzy
search with keywords, do you consider implementing this some time? (I
mean searching by set characteristics, for example "red technic truck",
"aircraft", etc.)

Yes...not sure when, but that's still an eventual goal.  It will probably
happen first with the elements database.

--Todd

I'm waiting for it..:-)

By the way, two other recommendations:

* How about putting the two white/blue arrows at the bottom of the page? It
would be very nice especially when browsing around multipage results of range
querries.

* How can we enter admin mode with the new interface? The old one still have
the admin mode button, but I can't see it on the new interface, although it
accepts me as an admin, since I can see the admin notes.

Selçuk

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Selçuk Göre writes:
I'm waiting for it..:-)

By the way, two other recommendations:

* How about putting the two white/blue arrows at the bottom of the page?
It would be very nice especially when browsing around multipage results of
range querries.

Just did, about a half hour ago -- try again now.  :-)


* How can we enter admin mode with the new interface? The old one still have
the admin mode button, but I can't see it on the new interface, although it
accepts me as an admin, since I can see the admin notes.

I haven't added that yet.  Maybe Sunday.

--Todd

   
         
     
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Todd & Suz <admin@lugnet.com> writes:

LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Improvements over the previous database include:


I just reworked my sets2html-script; the only problem that
I found was that the following link:

http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=lego/system/supplemental

doesn't give a full list of all supplemental items as
the former version used to; instead it shows only the set 5315.
This is also true for the lugnet-generated hyperlinks.


Regards,
Hakan


--
"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
I just reworked my sets2html-script;

What is it?


the only problem that I found was that the following link:

http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=lego/system/supplemental

doesn't give a full list of all supplemental items as
the former version used to; instead it shows only the set 5315.

Wow! -- that's an interesting mystery.  Not only does the new theme index
listing there show _only_ 5315, but the old one shows 13 matches _except_
5315:

   http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=LEGO,SYSTEM,Supplemental

I think I know what might be happening, but I'll have to look under the hood.
I think the curly braces { } around Suppmental in the 5315 case are getting it
confused about the category when it creates the new index and it's overwriting
the "{supplemental}" list internally with "supplemental" rather than pasting
the two together.


This is also true for the lugnet-generated hyperlinks.

OK, thanks!

--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Hi!
Looks really nice!

A few questions though:
"Set Tracking".
I assume that private means "for lugnet members" and public "for everyone" ?
Is there somewhere a total for the sets i have?(I have a very short memory,
so this could be useful..)
/Jocke

"Todd & Suz" <admin@lugnet.com> wrote in message
news:G0wo9C.B4I@lugnet.com...
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Improvements over the previous database include:

New Display Options
   Chose compact lists, thumbnails, or fully-detailed pages to browse • through.

Smarter Searches
   Display any range of set numbers, or use product category names to get
   better results returned to you.

Integrated Shopping
   See a set you like?  If it's available for sale online, check the • LUGNET
   BrickwiseT[1] mini-report righ there on the set page.

Set Tracking
   If you're a LUGNET Member[2], you can add your own notes right on the • set
   pages.  You can also mark a set as owned, want-to-buy, or want-to-sell.
   This can help you find the sets you need to be complete.

Members' Choice
   LUGNET Members[2] can also rank the best (and worst) sets of all time • by
   casting votes with a new Rating System appearing with each set's page.

Have fun!
--Todd & Suz

[1] LUGNET BrickwiseT Shopping Report:  http://guide.lugnet.com/shop/
[2] LUGNET Membership:  http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/

    
          
      
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In lugnet.admin.database, Joakim Olsson writes:
Hi!
Looks really nice!

A few questions though:
"Set Tracking".
I assume that private means "for lugnet members" and public "for everyone" ?
Is there somewhere a total for the sets i have?(I have a very short memory,
so this could be useful..)
/Jocke

You could always use Kleric's BrickDB...

http://208.42.18.126/lego/index.php3

Adrian

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Joakim Olsson writes:
Hi!
Looks really nice!

A few questions though:
"Set Tracking".
I assume that private means "for lugnet members" and public "for everyone" ?

"Private" there means you're the only one who sees it when you visit the
set's page (not even other Members can see it).

"Public" there means anyone can see it -- whether they're a signed-in Member
or a casual user.


Is there somewhere a total for the sets i have?(I have a very short memory,
so this could be useful..)

Coming soon!

--Todd

   
         
     
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"Todd & Suz" <admin@lugnet.com> wrote in message
news:G0wo9C.B4I@lugnet.com...
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

I like the new look! :-) I noticed that the good old Pause database is still
available, I guess that one will be completely replaced in the future?


[snipped descriptions of some (great) improvements]

Set Tracking
   If you're a LUGNET Member[2], you can add your own notes right on the • set
   pages.  You can also mark a set as owned, want-to-buy, or want-to-sell.
   This can help you find the sets you need to be complete.

Is it possible to create a list (perhaps coupled to the member page) to see
the items marked 'I want to buy' and 'I want to sell' to keep track of those
sets? I would like to review my personal wishlist once in a while...

Members' Choice
   LUGNET Members[2] can also rank the best (and worst) sets of all time • by
   casting votes with a new Rating System appearing with each set's page.

Cool! I'd like to see what sets are voted 'most popular' but also 'most
wanted' etc. I see posibilities for a whole lot of ranking pages here :-)

--
Frank Buiting

Visit the LEGO Lexicon: http://members.chello.nl/~f.buiting/lego/

    
          
      
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In lugnet.admin.database, Frank Buiting writes:
I like the new look! :-) I noticed that the good old Pause database is still
available, I guess that one will be completely replaced in the future?

phased out, ya.


Is it possible to create a list (perhaps coupled to the member page) to see
the items marked 'I want to buy' and 'I want to sell' to keep track of those
sets? I would like to review my personal wishlist once in a while...

Yes, coming soon!  :-)


Cool! I'd like to see what sets are voted 'most popular' but also 'most
wanted' etc. I see posibilities for a whole lot of ranking pages here :-)

Yup!  Those are some of the things that oughtta go on the guide.lugnet.com
homepage at some point, with links to more details.

--Todd

    
          
     
Subject: 
LEGO Set Lists (was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Frank Buiting writes:
Is it possible to create a list (perhaps coupled to the member page) to see
the items marked 'I want to buy' and 'I want to sell' to keep track of those
sets? I would like to review my personal wishlist once in a while...

Here ya go --

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/mlist.cgi?m=401

What you'll see there is everything you've entered, minus the ratings and
the text notes.  And when other people view your list, they only see the
"Public" lists (i.e., numbers that you filled into the boxes labeled
"Public").  Only you, when you're signed in, see the info you entered into
boxes lableed "Private."

BTW, at the top of the page, it also links back to your member profile page,

   http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=401

and that's got a link back to your set-list page.  So you can kinda hop around
in and out of the set DB and over to people's profile pages and back to their
lists and back to the DB again.  Ooh, I'm getting dizzy.  :)

--Todd

    
          
      
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Re: LEGO Set Lists (was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/mlist.cgi?m=401

Very, very nice.  The inclusion of the want to sell/Want to buy features is
incredible.  I didn't post about it then, but I started discussing a deal to
buy a set from someone based on the fact that they posted a desire to sell
within an hour of the first time I looked at the new set database format.  The
deal isn't finalised yet, mostly because the seller hadn't considered how much
he actually wanted for the set yet. :D

A very powerful and valuable tool.  At least, for those of us who want older
sets.

eric

    
          
      
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Frank Buiting writes:
Is it possible to create a list (perhaps coupled to the member page) to see
the items marked 'I want to buy' and 'I want to sell' to keep track of those
sets? I would like to review my personal wishlist once in a while...

Here ya go --

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/mlist.cgi?m=401

What you'll see there is everything you've entered, minus the ratings and
the text notes.  And when other people view your list, they only see the
"Public" lists (i.e., numbers that you filled into the boxes labeled
"Public").  Only you, when you're signed in, see the info you entered into
boxes lableed "Private."

Cool.  Nice & quick interface.  It didn't take me more than an hour or so of
free time to enter my sets (from fuzzy memory).  Now you give me a piece
count, and I find out I've got more LEGO than I thought!  Always a good
thing. :)

    
          
      
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Re: LEGO Set Lists (was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
Here ya go --

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/mlist.cgi?m=401

What you'll see there is everything you've entered, minus the ratings and
the text notes.  And when other people view your list, they only see the
"Public" lists (i.e., numbers that you filled into the boxes labeled
"Public").  Only you, when you're signed in, see the info you entered into
boxes lableed "Private."

BTW, at the top of the page, it also links back to your member profile page,

  http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=401

and that's got a link back to your set-list page.  So you can kinda hop around
in and out of the set DB and over to people's profile pages and back to their
lists and back to the DB again.  Ooh, I'm getting dizzy.  :)


Todd/Suze, this is awesome!  If you can promise me you won't have a server
crash I'll delete my Excel collection database  :]  The parts count is really
slick, too, something I was doing in Excel.

I think a big plus out of all of this as well is that as more and more
people "register" their collections, maybe more will contribute to
filling in the "holes" in the database data (missing piece counts, etc.).

This data integration this is getting fearsome!  ;]

Thanx!
KDJ
________________________________________________________
Kyle D. Jackson, LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada

     
           
      
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Re: LEGO Set Lists (was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
Todd/Suze, this is awesome!  If you can promise me you won't have a server
crash I'll delete my Excel collection database  :]

Throw me $100K and I can guarantee that.  :-)

The parts count is really
slick, too, something I was doing in Excel.

Could you make use of an export-as-CSV (or tab-separated text) feature?


I think a big plus out of all of this as well is that as more and more
people "register" their collections, maybe more will contribute to
filling in the "holes" in the database data (missing piece counts, etc.).

Looking forward to that, ya!


This data integration this is getting fearsome!  ;]

This is just a tiny step in the right direction!  :)

--Todd

     
           
      
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Re: LEGO Set Lists (was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:34:40AM +0000, Tood Lehman wrote:
The parts count is really
slick, too, something I was doing in Excel.

Could you make use of an export-as-CSV (or tab-separated text) feature?

I could!  I could!!!  :)

:)

Dan

     
           
      
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On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 03:31:54AM +0000, Dan Boger wrote:
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:34:40AM +0000, Tood Lehman wrote:
The parts count is really
slick, too, something I was doing in Excel.

Could you make use of an export-as-CSV (or tab-separated text) feature?

I could!  I could!!!  :)

also, (though Jenn already did everything by hand), import-from-CSV?

:)

Dan

     
           
      
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Dan Boger wrote:

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 03:31:54AM +0000, Dan Boger wrote:
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:34:40AM +0000, Tood Lehman wrote:
The parts count is really
slick, too, something I was doing in Excel.

Could you make use of an export-as-CSV (or tab-separated text) feature?

I could!  I could!!!  :)

also, (though Jenn already did everything by hand), import-from-CSV?

:)

Dan

Yep!! Extremely useful..:-) At least an "input set list page" where we
can input our sets by simply clicking on check boxes or such. Something
like summary pages of set searches. I think including the input
functionality to the current summary page format would do that nice.

Selçuk

    
          
     
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Re: LEGO Set Lists (was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Frank Buiting writes:
Is it possible to create a list (perhaps coupled to the member page) to see
the items marked 'I want to buy' and 'I want to sell' to keep track of those
sets? I would like to review my personal wishlist once in a while...

Here ya go --

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/mlist.cgi?m=401

Thanks, it's great! :-)
I'll start entering my complete set collection soon!

-Frank

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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Todd & Suz wrote in message ...
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/


Set Tracking
  If you're a LUGNET Member[2], you can add your own notes right on the • set
  pages.  You can also mark a set as owned, want-to-buy, or want-to-sell.
  This can help you find the sets you need to be complete.


This may be asking for a lot, however can we compile this set list of sets
we own?

I had to ask.

Great improvements!!!!

Rose

    
          
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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In lugnet.admin.database, Rose Regner writes:
This may be asking for a lot, however can we compile this set list of sets
we own?

I had to ask.

Coming soon, yup!

--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: Announcing new set database
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"Todd & Suz" <admin@lugnet.com> wrote in message
news:G0wo9C.B4I@lugnet.com...
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Improvements over the previous database include:

New Display Options
   Chose compact lists, thumbnails, or fully-detailed pages to browse • through.

Smarter Searches
   Display any range of set numbers, or use product category names to • get
   better results returned to you.

Integrated Shopping
   See a set you like?  If it's available for sale online, check the • LUGNET
   BrickwiseT[1] mini-report righ there on the set page.

Set Tracking
   If you're a LUGNET Member[2], you can add your own notes right on the • set
   pages.  You can also mark a set as owned, want-to-buy, or • want-to-sell.
   This can help you find the sets you need to be complete.

Members' Choice
   LUGNET Members[2] can also rank the best (and worst) sets of all time • by
   casting votes with a new Rating System appearing with each set's • page.


Todd,

The new stuff is great!  How about a ranking system similar to
Fibblesnork?  Except mayby a ranking for part selection rather than
alternate models.  I've always found the multi-dimensional ranking on
Fibblesnork very helpfull in choosing what sets to pursue.

-John Van

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, John VanZwieten writes:
<snip>

Todd,

The new stuff is great!  How about a ranking system similar to
Fibblesnork?  Except mayby a ranking for part selection rather than
alternate models.  I've always found the multi-dimensional ranking on
Fibblesnork very helpfull in choosing what sets to pursue.

I agree with John on this one.  Both a ranking for the Set and for the Part
Selection would be nice.  The biggest example of this would be 7151-Sith
Infiltraitor http://guide.lugnet.com/set/7151 .  Poor Set in terms of the Model
but a great Parts set.


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/

   
         
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

Mmmmmm, tasty.  I like, I like, I like.  And ditto on all the kudos the others
have given!  :-,

Just one nit (everyone has one, no one wants to hear from it :-) -- could you
please make the set title and number, in addition to the set image, a
hyperlink?  I'm talking mainly about the set listings page, e.g.
<http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=*starwars>.  This would mainly aid drag-and-
drop browsing in Netscape (can't d&d images), as well as give a tip of the hat
to those poor unfortunate Lynx users...  ;-)

Have fun!

I will!  :-,

Cheers,
- jsproat

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
This would mainly aid drag-and-drop browsing in Netscape (can't d&d images),

What is "drag-and-drop browsing"??  Sounds intriguing.

--Todd

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
This would mainly aid drag-and-drop browsing in Netscape (can't d&d images),
What is "drag-and-drop browsing"??  Sounds intriguing.

Nothing big, really.  An example is to have one window open for a TOC, and
another window open for the chapters; to change chapters you drag the
hyperlink from the TOC window to the chapter window.  The benefit is keeping
the browsers' window placements the same while traversing a large site
quickly.  I do this a lot for large sites with content that is formatted
largely the same, like an online newspaper or LUGNET.  I'm not sure if I'm the
only one who does this.  :-,

In IE 5.0 at least, you can drag an image with a hyperlink, and the hyperlink
would be dropped (as opposed to the image).  Netscape gets confused if you
drag something that is both an image and a hyperlink, and refuses to drop any
content.

Cheers,
- jsproat

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
What is "drag-and-drop browsing"??  Sounds intriguing.

Nothing big, really.  An example is to have one window open for a TOC, and
another window open for the chapters; to change chapters you drag the
hyperlink from the TOC window to the chapter window.  The benefit is keeping
the browsers' window placements the same while traversing a large site
quickly.  I do this a lot for large sites with content that is formatted
largely the same, like an online newspaper or LUGNET.  I'm not sure if I'm
the only one who does this.  :-,

Ahh, I see.  Well, sounds like what you really need then is a dual-frame or
tri-frame option.  Then you wouldn't even have to drag the link -- just click
it.

--Todd


In IE 5.0 at least, you can drag an image with a hyperlink, and the hyperlink
would be dropped (as opposed to the image).  Netscape gets confused if you
drag something that is both an image and a hyperlink, and refuses to drop any
content.

Cheers,
- jsproat

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
Ahh, I see.  Well, sounds like what you really need then is a dual-frame or
tri-frame option.  Then you wouldn't even have to drag the link -- just click
it.

Except that, due to my insane hatred for frames (;-), I'll actually break out
of 'em and use d&d browsing instead, since Netscape will remember frame names
across several browser windows.

It's really no biggie; I can browse the new format just as happily.  But I was
just thinking that, since it's in a script already, it'd be pretty trivial to
wrap a hyperlink around the set title and number when you wrap it around the
set images.

Cheers,
- jsproat

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
Except that, due to my insane hatred for frames (;-), I'll actually break out
of 'em and use d&d browsing instead, since Netscape will remember frame names
across several browser windows.

I guess that's an issue if the frame names are common things like "main" and
"display" and "gunkie_foo".  :-)  What happens when the frame name contains,
say, the site's name as a prefix?


It's really no biggie; I can browse the new format just as happily.  But I
was just thinking that, since it's in a script already, it'd be pretty
trivial to wrap a hyperlink around the set title and number when you wrap
it around the set images.

It would be trivial, yah, but when it was like that a while back, it really
was less readable -- too darn bright.

--Todd

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
since Netscape will remember frame names
across several browser windows.
I guess that's an issue if the frame names are common things like "main" and
"display" and "gunkie_foo".  :-)

That's when I grab my clue stick and don my taunting hat, and hunt down the
page author.  :-,

What happens when the frame name contains,
say, the site's name as a prefix?

If the frame name is relatively unique, then it's really no issue.  If I have
a dozen Netscape windows up, but only one has the frame
name "SECRET_PROJECT_HENRIETTA_toc_section_four", then any HREF that targets
that frame will be loaded into that window.

It's really no biggie; I can browse the new format just as happily.  But I
was just thinking that, since it's in a script already, it'd be pretty
trivial to wrap a hyperlink around the set title and number when you wrap
it around the set images.
It would be trivial, yah, but when it was like that a while back, it really
was less readable -- too darn bright.

Good point.  But couldn't this be addressed with some clever css?  Again, no
biggie.

Cheers,
- jsproat

   
         
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

Well, I gave the new database a quick whirl, (I clicked on the guide
icon and then Technic) and the first thing it showed me was a...
"Gabelstapler".  A little lower was "PKW" for the original auto-chassis.
Is this a new LEGO code I'm not familiar with?  Did we suddenly add an
R and go from Geek to Greek?  Is this a German? takeover of LUGNet?  8-)

SRC
(Who's sure there's got to be some more jokes in this yet...)

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Steve Chapple writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

Well, I gave the new database a quick whirl, (I clicked on the guide
icon and then Technic) and the first thing it showed me was a...
"Gabelstapler".  A little lower was "PKW" for the original auto-chassis.
Is this a new LEGO code I'm not familiar with?  Did we suddenly add an
R and go from Geek to Greek?  Is this a German? takeover of LUGNet?  8-)

SRC
(Who's sure there's got to be some more jokes in this yet...)

I think there are several Europe-only sets in the DB and they aren't marked
with a language code.  Most names there tend to be English.

--Todd

   
         
     
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Looks great!

One bug and one suggestion:

(1) The bug is that there is a missing range indicator
    at the top of a listing, e.g. go to
    http://guide.lugnet.com/set/
    and follow the quick link to trains.
    The first screen is OK --- it has
    "First 20 of 224 Set Matches".  But then click on
    the right arrow for the next page, and it shows
    "21–40 of 224 Set Matches".  I guess there is supposed
    to be a dash there between the 21 and 40.

(2) Suggestion:  Duplicate the left and right arrows
    for going backward and forward at the bottom of the
    page so that when a user scrolls down, there is an
    arrow there, and one doesn't need to scroll back to
    the top to go to the next page.

Thanks again!
/Eric McC/

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Charles Eric McCarthy writes:
Looks great!

One bug and one suggestion:

(1) The bug is that there is a missing range indicator
    at the top of a listing, e.g. go to
    http://guide.lugnet.com/set/
    and follow the quick link to trains.
    The first screen is OK --- it has
    "First 20 of 224 Set Matches".  But then click on
    the right arrow for the next page, and it shows
    "21–40 of 224 Set Matches".  I guess there is supposed
    to be a dash there between the 21 and 40.

Hmm.  I see an en-dash there (not a hyphen and not an em-dash but an en-dash).
That doesn't show up for you?  What browser/OS were you viewing with?

It's using entity &#150; there, which is kind of a Microsoft-ism in character
set terms, but I had previously thought that all browsers honored it anyway,
and converted it to a hyphen if the en-dash wasn't available.  Hmm.


(2) Suggestion:  Duplicate the left and right arrows
    for going backward and forward at the bottom of the
    page so that when a user scrolls down, there is an
    arrow there, and one doesn't need to scroll back to
    the top to go to the next page.

Ya, sorry about that.  We took it out last night because it was super-
confusing on short pages.  We'll put it back after trimming it down in a
way which works great but isn't confusing.

--Todd

    
          
     
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Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.admin.database, Charles Eric McCarthy writes:
Looks great!

One bug and one suggestion:

(1) The bug is that there is a missing range indicator
    at the top of a listing, e.g. go to
    http://guide.lugnet.com/set/
    and follow the quick link to trains.
    The first screen is OK --- it has
    "First 20 of 224 Set Matches".  But then click on
    the right arrow for the next page, and it shows
    "21–40 of 224 Set Matches".  I guess there is supposed
    to be a dash there between the 21 and 40.

Hmm.  I see an en-dash there (not a hyphen and not an em-dash but an en-dash).
That doesn't show up for you?  What browser/OS were you viewing with?

It's using entity &#150; there, which is kind of a Microsoft-ism in character
set terms, but I had previously thought that all browsers honored it anyway,
and converted it to a hyphen if the en-dash wasn't available.  Hmm.

I could have sworn that when I looked at the page
source the first time, it was just "2140", but now
when I look it is "21&#15040".
Yes, it doesn't come out on Netscape 3.01 on Solaris
(I know it's old, but our sysadmins always have
"more important" things to do) but I don't expect
anyone to care about such an old version anymore.
Note, it is unrelated to the boldification.
I tried taking out the <B> and </B> and the en-dash
is still missing.

(2) Suggestion:  Duplicate the left and right arrows
[snip]

(3) Another Suggestion:  enable search by multiple
keys at the same time.
I wanted to look at all 1980-1985 train sets
but couldn't figure out how.
I couldn't figure out how to look at only 1980 train sets, either.
Is there a way?

/Eric McC/

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Charles Eric McCarthy writes:
I could have sworn that when I looked at the page
source the first time, it was just "2140", but now
when I look it is "21&#15040".

Nope, it was always there (I just checked).  BTW, are you sure you aren't
seeing "21&#150;40" now?  There should be a ";" after the "&#150", otherwise
it's grammatically incorrect HTML, and you'd probabaly see "20" followed by
a splotch character of some sort.


(3) Another Suggestion:  enable search by multiple keys at the same time.
I wanted to look at all 1980-1985 train sets but couldn't figure out how.
I couldn't figure out how to look at only 1980 train sets, either.
Is there a way?

Not yet, no.

--Todd

    
          
     
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Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.admin.database, Charles Eric McCarthy writes:
I could have sworn that when I looked at the page
source the first time, it was just "2140", but now
when I look it is "21&#15040".

Nope, it was always there (I just checked).  BTW, are you sure you aren't
seeing "21&#150;40" now?  There should be a ";" after the "&#150", otherwise
it's grammatically incorrect HTML, and you'd probabaly see "20" followed by
a splotch character of some sort.

Yes, there is a semicolon.

/Eric McC/

   
         
     
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"Todd & Suz" <admin@lugnet.com> wrote in message
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Members' Choice
   LUGNET Members[2] can also rank the best (and worst) sets of all time • by
   casting votes with a new Rating System appearing with each set's page.

Have fun!
--Todd & Suz

Lugnet admin.

Would it be possible to see some statistics for the sets?
"The most owned set by LUGNET members", "The best looking set ever,
acoording to members" and so on.

Oh, and here is another one:
Is the window that "pops up" when klicking on the the set picture, supposed
to be almost the same size as the original picture?
Or is it dependant on the size of scanned setpictures (Some small, some
big)?
Play well!
/Joakim

    
          
     
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In lugnet.admin.database, Joakim Olsson writes:
Would it be possible to see some statistics for the sets?
"The most owned set by LUGNET members", "The best looking set ever,
acoording to members" and so on.

Kinda rough around the edges, but anyway:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/rank/

And it's updated once per hour.


Oh, and here is another one:
Is the window that "pops up" when klicking on the the set picture, supposed
to be almost the same size as the original picture?
Or is it dependant on the size of scanned setpictures (Some small, some
big)?

9 times out of 10 it's larger -- but it's always the original size of the
original image uploaded, so sometimes it might not be bigger (and in some
really funky cases it might even be smaller).

--Todd

    
          
      
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
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Kinda rough around the edges, but anyway:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/rank/

And it's updated once per hour.

It's beautifull! Thanks!

BTW, do you ever sleep? Whenever i ask a question, you respond imediately. I
thought you were in the US, and considering the timezone you must be awake
24 hours a day ;-)
/Joakim

     
           
      
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In lugnet.admin.database, Joakim Olsson writes:
BTW, do you ever sleep? Whenever i ask a question, you respond imediately. I
thought you were in the US, and considering the timezone you must be awake
24 hours a day ;-)

How long have you noticed that I consider the timezone when I am not awake 24
hours a day?

--Todd

     
           
      
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
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How long have you noticed that I consider the timezone when I am not awake • 24
hours a day?

--Todd

I have a problem understanding that sentence(translating to Swedish, still
learning). What I meant was, I allways check LUGNET for new messages,
between 7 AM and 1 AM Local time, and you are allways there... i'm in GMT+1,
first timezone in US eastcoast is GMT-4....
Just curious, maybe to much ;-)
/Joakim

     
           
      
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
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How long have you noticed that I consider the timezone when I am not awake • 24
hours a day?

--Todd

I have a problem understanding that sentence(translating to Swedish, still
learning). What I meant was, I allways check LUGNET for new messages,
between 7 AM and 1 AM Local time, and you are allways there... i'm in GMT+1,
first timezone in US eastcoast is GMT-4....

no, i can't read that sentence either....

     
           
      
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In lugnet.admin.database, Jennifer L. Boger writes:
"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
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How long have you noticed that I consider the timezone when I am not
awake 24 hours a day?

I have a problem understanding that sentence(translating to Swedish, still
learning). What I meant was, I allways check LUGNET for new messages,
between 7 AM and 1 AM Local time, and you are allways there... i'm in GMT+1,
first timezone in US eastcoast is GMT-4....

no, i can't read that sentence either....

<grin> It was some Eliza-style geek humour.

--Todd

    
          
     
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In the category of wouldnt-it-be-nice-if-Todd-did-this ...

I really like the notes section in the sets database. I love reading these
notes and have been making an effort to write notes for sets I own to
contribute to this.

However, it would be nice to be able to get access to longer reviews than
can be written in one line. Currently reviews are all over the place, posted
as messages to all manner of lugnet groups as well as various people's
private WWW sites etc. Obviously including the complete reviews would
clutter up the database too much, but would it be possible for a note to
have an associated URL (as a separate field, not embedded in the note) to
provide a click to a larger review?

That way, the set database would be the entrypoint for any review that any
member chose to contribute without cluttering up the set database with the
reviews themselves. Then notes could serve as an "executive summary" of a
longer review, and interested people could follow the links to read the full
review.

Kerry

--
Kerry Raymond
kerry@dstc.edu.au
Proud to be LUGNET Member 599
www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=599

   
         
   
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/

[snip]
Have fun!
--Todd & Suz

[1] LUGNET Brickwise™ Shopping Report:  http://guide.lugnet.com/shop/
[2] LUGNET Membership:  http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/

Todd and Suz - this is a phenomenal service.  FYI - I've added piece counts for
baisc sets from the mid 80s/early 902 to my comments on sets taht I own.  I
hope this helps.

 

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