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Re: Electrical Things (was: Railroad Dilemma)
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:52:06 GMT
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Simon Robinson writes:
I finally got round to having a play with my controllers and my
multimeter.

PUTTING TWO CONTROLLERS ON THE SAME TRACK
-----------------------------------------
Firstly, apologies to Ben, who suggested if you connect two
controllers to the same track, then they'd short only if the
controllers had opposite polarities. Ben was actually correct.

What I actually found was the voltage on the track is the BIGGER
of the two voltages that the two controllers puts out, if they
have the same polarity. If they have opposite polarities, then they
always short out and there's a small residual voltage (about 0.3V)
on the track.  I'm a bit puzzled as to what can be going on in
the controllers to cause this behaviour.

That is because there is a diode to protect from reverse voltage and the
voltage drop is about 0.3V

Incidently there doesn't seem to be any effect on the speed the train
goes at if you put an extra controller on the track. (I wondered if
there might have been because the controllers could supply more current)

CHARACTERISTICS OF ONE CONTROLLER
---------------------------------
As I suspected the controller supplies a variable voltage. As you move the
speed regulater from zero to the first of the 6 marks the voltage suddenly
jumps up to about 3V. It then increases linearly up to about 9V for the
maximum speed. I say roughly because my controllers, both newish, differ
by 0.2V, so I guess Lego's quality control for this stuff isn't too exact (it
doesn't really need to be).

The motor power unit has a resistance of 8.7 ohms, so at max. speed, it's
eating up about an amp. (or about 9 watts of power).

The maximum current is about 0.7A MAXIMUM ( maximum voltage and whell not
turning) with one controller

In more detail, for one of my controllers, the readings were

              open circuit      voltage with     which means
                   voltage      train running    internal resistance is
Full power          9.24V        9.04V            0.09ohms
Minimum speed       3.04V        2.99V            0.02ohms

I'm surprised that the internal resistance varies with voltage. I guess
I'll have to go and read up on my basic electronics again to figure out
what's going on.

the internal resistance will vary with voltage apply ( or will look to) because
at full speed the voltage is not realy constant there is a little variation
(ripple) du to the voltage regulator (the box you plug into the wall) that
is near is maximum capacity, and because there is a semiconductor voltage
regulator inside the controller.

Simon
http://www.SimonRobinson.com

<snip>

if there is two controller, then you will be able to draw about twice the
current of a single controller or about 1.4A

Martin

Electronic technitian



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