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Re: all container input (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:09:44 GMT
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Larry is spot on:  any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
build solid, no door units).
Car design, this can indeed vary.  I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
look more uniform.

An idea I've just tried...
to me, stacking 6 - x8 units on a drop center looks a little off.  I remove
one and center the uppermost 3 ontop of the 2.  On the raised ends, I build
simple supports to pick up the cantilevered ends of the containers.  Certainly
not prototype in the most strict sense, but the resulting overhang look isn't
far off of the American practice of loading longer ontop of shorter.  Plus, my
daughter is working on her +5 tables, so it's a practical exercise.  :)

I'm gonna try to get clubmember Jon Rasmussen involved in the dialog here.
He's in process of building a large container complex which would be worthy of
the influx of containers we could see.
dp/PNLTC

In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/4000/4549/4549-03.html

doesn't need to be adhered to. Just the form factor. Most of my containers are
solid and don't have end doors, they're made out of ordinary bricks to • reduce...<snip>
++Lar (container crazy)

   
         
   
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Re: all container input (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.nelug
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Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:08:55 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
Larry is spot on:  any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
build solid, no door units).
Car design, this can indeed vary.  I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
look more uniform.

OK I decided to go ahead and make a NELUG container...

http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugcont.jpg

I think thats what your looking for.  I used an Avery clear shipping label for
the decal and it looks OK.  I still have to build a car and I also want to try
this in Gray to see what it looks like.

Let me know if this looks satisfactory or not.  I don't have much in the way of
train stuff so for the top I had to use tiles and plates instead of the special
4x8 tile/plate hybrid part.  It is also solid all the way around.  No doors.


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/

View My Creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: all container input (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:50:47 GMT
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Eric,
this shall do nicely -- Pls take note everyone!

side note:  I've never had allot of special train parts and consider
substitutions the standard.
dp/PNLTC
In lugnet.trains, Eric Kingsley writes:
In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
Larry is spot on:  any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
build solid, no door units).
Car design, this can indeed vary.  I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
look more uniform.

OK I decided to go ahead and make a NELUG container...

http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugcont.jpg

I think thats what your looking for.  I used an Avery clear shipping label for
the decal and it looks OK.  I still have to build a car and I also want to try
this in Gray to see what it looks like.

Let me know if this looks satisfactory or not.  I don't have much in the way • of
train stuff so for the top I had to use tiles and plates instead of the • special
4x8 tile/plate hybrid part.  It is also solid all the way around.  No doors.


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/

View My Creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: How about BOX CARS! (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:32:17 GMT
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WOW! you guys work fast! The container idea sounds good, but the container are
small and all the different flat beds would look weird. I’m in if this is what
work for you all.

But, here is another idea, how about a special train...

Yellow locos (2 to 4) with red LEGO logos on the sides.

All the LTCs, LUGs and etc would make Box Cars (6x24 stud long verity with 4
axles, like the ones Larry P makes) with more spaces for logos and not so hard
to set up. And for you guys stuck on containers "it's a big conainer with
wheels":)

And the caboose would be in LUGNET colors with the logo on it.(If Todd will
let us use the TM) It will have the web link on it and not just the logo!

Build on...
Robin Werner
GFLTC
http://member.xoom.com/gfltc

     
           
       
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Re: How about BOX CARS! (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.nelug
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Sat, 3 Jun 2000 03:21:59 GMT
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Here is a link to a temp web page on the All World Train idea:

http://members.xoom.com/gfltc/worldltc.html

What do you think?

Robin Werner
GFLTC

      
            
       
Subject: 
Re: How about BOX CARS! (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.nelug
Date: 
Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:00:42 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Robin Werner writes:
Here is a link to a temp web page on the All World Train idea:

http://members.xoom.com/gfltc/worldltc.html

What do you think?

Nice artwork. Very nice! I can visualise the train now...

Here's what I am thinking. Why squabble over should it be cars, containers,
etc? Let's do them all... we could perhaps let the clubs do boxcars,
individuals do containers, and even let those with commercial interests do
billboards. This IS going to be a scenicked layout.

Bricks on the Brain,
Guild of Bricksmiths,
Brickmania,
BrickBay
Fletcher Jennings Fine Railway Products
Milton Train Works
Kevin's Creations
Guarded Inn

just to name a few, are all commercial interests and worthy of some mention.
Sorry to whoever I missed, of course

Also, instead of just LUGNET on a caboose, don't forget the other guys:

brickset
brickshelf
Pause (we owe something to our roots)
and.... rtl!

all non club non commercial orgs that deserve some mention, hmm? again sorry to
whoever I missed.

Office buildings and warehouses and tractor trailers and the sides of busses
are all other things that often have adverts on them. Let's have this be a
profusion of adverts. Make sure to include a URL whenever you can!

And if some club can pick up some commercial $pon$or$hip, real corporate logos
are OK too! For enough moolah, anyway.

++Lar

      
            
       
Subject: 
Advertising on LTC layouts (was Re: How about BOX CARS! (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!)
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.nelug
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Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:06:12 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

And if some club can pick up some commercial $pon$or$hip, real corporate logos
are OK too! For enough moolah, anyway.

++Lar

Larry,

This was something I was toying with for our club one day, glad to see I'm not the
only one. I though what a nice way to make some money for the LTC would be to sell
ad space on the layout, boxcars, billboards, actual buildings (i.e. car dealers,
restaurants, etc.) to local business in the area of the club.

I was going to put a page together on the club site and see if I can get a few
local business try it out. Maybe do a few for free just to get some material for
promoting the idea.

Has anyone else tried this yet?

jt


--
---------------------------------------------------------
James J. Trobaugh
North Georgia LEGO Train Club
http://www.ngltc.org

      
            
       
Subject: 
Re: Advertising on LTC layouts (was Re: How about BOX CARS! (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!)
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Sat, 3 Jun 2000 16:23:01 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, James J. Trobaugh writes:

Larry,

This was something I was toying with for our club one day,
glad to see I'm not the
only one. I though what a nice way to make some money for
the LTC would be to sell
ad space on the layout, boxcars, billboards, actual buildings
(i.e. car dealers,
restaurants, etc.) to local business in the area of the club.

I was going to put a page together on the club site and see if I can get a few
local business try it out.
Maybe do a few for free just to get some material for
promoting the idea.

Has anyone else tried this yet?


I also thought of trying ad space idea on my layouts, back in my solo day. But
now maybe I should try this idea with the club, it would be nice to get cash
for more stuff. Perhaps one day all the LTC could link up and get big sponsors
like COKE or TRU? Who knows where this could go, but don't quit your day jobs
yet!

Robin Werner
GFLTC
http://members.xoom.com

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: How about BOX CARS! (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.nelug
Date: 
Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:21:46 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Robin Werner writes:

All the LTCs, LUGs and etc would make Box Cars (6x24 stud long verity with 4
axles, like the ones Larry P makes) with more spaces for logos and not so hard
to set up. And for you guys stuck on containers "it's a big conainer with
wheels":)

This sounds like a good idea too.  I would like to try one anyway.  It doesn't
sound to difficult but could someone post a link to one just so us non-train
guys can have a referance.

Thanks,


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/

View My Creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: all container input (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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Date: 
Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:02:41 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
Eric,
this shall do nicely -- Pls take note everyone!

Nice container Eric! The stripes look swell

side note:  I've never had allot of special train parts and consider
substitutions the standard.

Ditto. I have maybe 4 of those special 4x8 tile/plates... who needs them,
they're a POOP. Well, sort of. :-)

++Lar

    
          
     
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Re: all container input (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:05:07 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
Eric,
this shall do nicely -- Pls take note everyone!


Some of the German AFOLs plan to offer containers for the PNLTC too. Here comes
my first drafts of two containers:
http://www.f5.parsimony.net/forum5725/messages/8213.htm

I think I would offer to send them one way: the worth of such a small container
would be succeded by the shipping prizes....

But I won't send the flatcar. That's just a very prototypical version to show,
how the containers look like.

Best Regards,

Ben

P.s.: Now I have to check shipping costs and how many people will do some PR
for their homepages...

P.p.s.: Would it be possible to make up a page with links to the homepages of
all people who send their own container? I think you can't read the URLs on the
small models themselves.

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: all container input (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:13:01 GMT
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Here are the containers that Dan and I made for the last Portland GATS:
http://www.sstanamera.com/~sebarile/LEGO/temp/PNLTCcon1.jpg
http://www.sstanamera.com/~sebarile/LEGO/temp/PNLTCcon2.jpg

Note: the vertical lines are an attempt to use brick lines as detail.

SteveB

In lugnet.trains, Eric Kingsley writes:
In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
Larry is spot on:  any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
build solid, no door units).
Car design, this can indeed vary.  I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
look more uniform.

OK I decided to go ahead and make a NELUG container...

http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugcont.jpg

I think thats what your looking for.  I used an Avery clear shipping label for
the decal and it looks OK.  I still have to build a car and I also want to try
this in Gray to see what it looks like.

Let me know if this looks satisfactory or not.  I don't have much in the way • of
train stuff so for the top I had to use tiles and plates instead of the • special
4x8 tile/plate hybrid part.  It is also solid all the way around.  No doors.


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/

View My Creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: all container input (wasPNLTC to break Guinness record!
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:16:41 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Steven Barile writes:
Here are the containers that Dan and I made for the last Portland GATS:
http://www.sstanamera.com/~sebarile/LEGO/temp/PNLTCcon1.jpg
http://www.sstanamera.com/~sebarile/LEGO/temp/PNLTCcon2.jpg

Note: the vertical lines are an attempt to use brick lines as detail.

SteveB

Well I took some time over the weekend to put together a container car with
4x16 and 4x8 containers on it.  I don't know if you will wan't the whole car or
just a container but here is what I have so far.

http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugside.jpg
http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugend.jpg

Now if you can't tell that car and containers are a NELUG submission I think
your pretty hard of sight.  I also tried to make it blatently obvious what our
URL is so no one should miss it.  I know this setup is not Prototypical but it
is LEGOtypical so I guess thats OK with me.

I am going to try a box car too just to see what I can come up with.  Like I
said I am extremely limited when it comes to train stuff so we will see what I
can come up with.

LMKIISAU (1)


Eric Kingsley


1.  Let me know if I screwed anything up :-).  I'm not a train head you know.


The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/

View My creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/

 

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