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Dan,
can you see if this rather good idea is going to happen as those of us in
Europe will need to get it planned and built, and then send across the pond
in time. Perhaps you could post a .DAT file or some pictures on Brickshelf
that will act as a reference for the standard shape and size for these
container wagons. If you give the okay, I think you guys might get a flood
a container cars from all the corners of the world.
Nicholas Allan
"Dan Parker" <dnvpark@gte.net> wrote in message
news:FvIMxy.5E9@lugnet.com...
> Robin,
> the locos sound like a great idea -- I'll forward to the group but it should
> fly. As an option, how about standard LEGO containers in club colors and
> logos? Just imagine a complete container train representing all the
> organizations. dp/PNLTC
> In lugnet.trains, Robin Werner writes:
> <snip>
> > Here an idea for the event. How about we get all the LTC and LUG to send one
> > locomotive in there club's colors with there club's logo on it, for a group
> > train record? "The World's First Unified Club Super Train" All we would do is
> > make a special locomotives and mail them to you(PNLTC). You would run them at
> > the event and of coarse you would send them back to us after:)
> >
> > Build on...
> > Robin Werner
> > GFLTC
> > http://member.xoom.com/gfltc
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In lugnet.trains, Nicholas Allan writes:
> Dan,
> can you see if this rather good idea is going to happen as those of us in
> Europe will need to get it planned and built, and then send across the pond
> in time. Perhaps you could post a .DAT file or some pictures on Brickshelf
I think Dan means the container that Lego has done several times in sets, it's
4x8 base and has appeared in at least 4549.
http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=4549
There is another size too... 4x16. Both are the same height and have the same
bottom and top "attachment" points. That's probably a better choice.
A special scan is not necessary, just refer to the 4549 building instructions:
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/4000/4549/
Hope that helps.
Now, it's a good point that containers by themselves need cars. THERE, the
standard is a bit less clear. The 4549 is very unprototypical and I'd rather
see a good easily reproducable articulated doublestack design (such as mine or
the PNLTC Thrall-ish car) used.
I know for sure I will be sending at LEAST a container. Probably more like a
bin of track and a bunch of cars. BTW, I saw my coach that has been on
"permanent" loan to PNLTC the other night and it's still hanging in there.
++Lar
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In lugnet.trains, Nicholas Allan writes:
> Dan,
> can you see if this rather good idea is going to happen as those of us in
> Europe will need to get it planned and built, and then send across the pond
> in time. Perhaps you could post a .DAT file or some pictures on Brickshelf
PS, remember that the exact design shown, for example, here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/4000/4549/4549-03.html
doesn't need to be adhered to. Just the form factor. Most of my containers are
solid and don't have end doors, they're made out of ordinary bricks to reduce
cost. But they mate just fine with the containers from 4549 or launch & load
seaport...
++Lar (container crazy)
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Nicholas Allan wrote:
>
> Dan,
> can you see if this rather good idea is going to happen as those of us in
> Europe will need to get it planned and built, and then send across the pond
> in time. Perhaps you could post a .DAT file or some pictures on Brickshelf
> that will act as a reference for the standard shape and size for these
> container wagons. If you give the okay, I think you guys might get a flood
> a container cars from all the corners of the world.
>
> Nicholas Allan
> "Dan Parker" <dnvpark@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:FvIMxy.5E9@lugnet.com...
> > Robin,
> > the locos sound like a great idea -- I'll forward to the group but it should
> > fly. As an option, how about standard LEGO containers in club colors and
> > logos? Just imagine a complete container train representing all the
> > organizations. dp/PNLTC
> > In lugnet.trains, Robin Werner writes:
> > <snip>
> > > Here an idea for the event. How about we get all the LTC and LUG to send one
> > > locomotive in there club's colors with there club's logo on it, for a group
> > > train record? "The World's First Unified Club Super Train" All we would do is
> > > make a special locomotives and mail them to you(PNLTC). You would run them at
> > > the event and of coarse you would send them back to us after:)
> > >
> > > Build on...
> > > Robin Werner
> > > GFLTC
> > > http://member.xoom.com/gfltc
Anyone in australia that can make one of these cars, please do, I would
like to see an aussie container in this train. If we had 1 car from
every lego club/train club in the world (or as close to it as we can
get) then that might even be another record, most people owning lego in
the one train :)
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Larry is spot on: any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
build solid, no door units).
Car design, this can indeed vary. I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
look more uniform.
An idea I've just tried...
to me, stacking 6 - x8 units on a drop center looks a little off. I remove
one and center the uppermost 3 ontop of the 2. On the raised ends, I build
simple supports to pick up the cantilevered ends of the containers. Certainly
not prototype in the most strict sense, but the resulting overhang look isn't
far off of the American practice of loading longer ontop of shorter. Plus, my
daughter is working on her +5 tables, so it's a practical exercise. :)
I'm gonna try to get clubmember Jon Rasmussen involved in the dialog here.
He's in process of building a large container complex which would be worthy of
the influx of containers we could see.
dp/PNLTC
In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/4000/4549/4549-03.html
>
> doesn't need to be adhered to. Just the form factor. Most of my containers are
> solid and don't have end doors, they're made out of ordinary bricks to reduce...<snip>
> ++Lar (container crazy)
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In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
> Larry is spot on: any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
> build solid, no door units).
> Car design, this can indeed vary. I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
> doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
> look more uniform.
OK I decided to go ahead and make a NELUG container...
http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugcont.jpg
I think thats what your looking for. I used an Avery clear shipping label for
the decal and it looks OK. I still have to build a car and I also want to try
this in Gray to see what it looks like.
Let me know if this looks satisfactory or not. I don't have much in the way of
train stuff so for the top I had to use tiles and plates instead of the special
4x8 tile/plate hybrid part. It is also solid all the way around. No doors.
Eric Kingsley
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
View My Creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/
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Eric,
this shall do nicely -- Pls take note everyone!
side note: I've never had allot of special train parts and consider
substitutions the standard.
dp/PNLTC
In lugnet.trains, Eric Kingsley writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
> > Larry is spot on: any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
> > build solid, no door units).
> > Car design, this can indeed vary. I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
> > doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
> > look more uniform.
>
> OK I decided to go ahead and make a NELUG container...
>
> http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugcont.jpg
>
> I think thats what your looking for. I used an Avery clear shipping label for
> the decal and it looks OK. I still have to build a car and I also want to try
> this in Gray to see what it looks like.
>
> Let me know if this looks satisfactory or not. I don't have much in the way of
> train stuff so for the top I had to use tiles and plates instead of the special
> 4x8 tile/plate hybrid part. It is also solid all the way around. No doors.
>
>
> Eric Kingsley
>
> The New England LEGO Users Group
> http://www.nelug.org/
>
> View My Creations at:
> http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/
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WOW! you guys work fast! The container idea sounds good, but the container are
small and all the different flat beds would look weird. Im in if this is what
work for you all.
But, here is another idea, how about a special train...
Yellow locos (2 to 4) with red LEGO logos on the sides.
All the LTCs, LUGs and etc would make Box Cars (6x24 stud long verity with 4
axles, like the ones Larry P makes) with more spaces for logos and not so hard
to set up. And for you guys stuck on containers "it's a big conainer with
wheels":)
And the caboose would be in LUGNET colors with the logo on it.(If Todd will
let us use the TM) It will have the web link on it and not just the logo!
Build on...
Robin Werner
GFLTC
http://member.xoom.com/gfltc
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In lugnet.trains, Robin Werner writes:
> Here is a link to a temp web page on the All World Train idea:
>
> http://members.xoom.com/gfltc/worldltc.html
>
> What do you think?
Nice artwork. Very nice! I can visualise the train now...
Here's what I am thinking. Why squabble over should it be cars, containers,
etc? Let's do them all... we could perhaps let the clubs do boxcars,
individuals do containers, and even let those with commercial interests do
billboards. This IS going to be a scenicked layout.
Bricks on the Brain,
Guild of Bricksmiths,
Brickmania,
BrickBay
Fletcher Jennings Fine Railway Products
Milton Train Works
Kevin's Creations
Guarded Inn
just to name a few, are all commercial interests and worthy of some mention.
Sorry to whoever I missed, of course
Also, instead of just LUGNET on a caboose, don't forget the other guys:
brickset
brickshelf
Pause (we owe something to our roots)
and.... rtl!
all non club non commercial orgs that deserve some mention, hmm? again sorry to
whoever I missed.
Office buildings and warehouses and tractor trailers and the sides of busses
are all other things that often have adverts on them. Let's have this be a
profusion of adverts. Make sure to include a URL whenever you can!
And if some club can pick up some commercial $pon$or$hip, real corporate logos
are OK too! For enough moolah, anyway.
++Lar
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In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
> Eric,
> this shall do nicely -- Pls take note everyone!
Nice container Eric! The stripes look swell
> side note: I've never had allot of special train parts and consider
> substitutions the standard.
Ditto. I have maybe 4 of those special 4x8 tile/plates... who needs them,
they're a POOP. Well, sort of. :-)
++Lar
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Here are the containers that Dan and I made for the last Portland GATS:
http://www.sstanamera.com/~sebarile/LEGO/temp/PNLTCcon1.jpg
http://www.sstanamera.com/~sebarile/LEGO/temp/PNLTCcon2.jpg
Note: the vertical lines are an attempt to use brick lines as detail.
SteveB
In lugnet.trains, Eric Kingsley writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
> > Larry is spot on: any container of the x8 or x16 form would work (I also
> > build solid, no door units).
> > Car design, this can indeed vary. I suggest 16-stud "flat" types or
> > doublestack types of as simple of a design as one can make -- thus, they'll
> > look more uniform.
>
> OK I decided to go ahead and make a NELUG container...
>
> http://www.nelug.org/container/nelugcont.jpg
>
> I think thats what your looking for. I used an Avery clear shipping label for
> the decal and it looks OK. I still have to build a car and I also want to try
> this in Gray to see what it looks like.
>
> Let me know if this looks satisfactory or not. I don't have much in the way of
> train stuff so for the top I had to use tiles and plates instead of the special
> 4x8 tile/plate hybrid part. It is also solid all the way around. No doors.
>
>
> Eric Kingsley
>
> The New England LEGO Users Group
> http://www.nelug.org/
>
> View My Creations at:
> http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/
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In lugnet.trains, Robin Werner writes:
> All the LTCs, LUGs and etc would make Box Cars (6x24 stud long verity with 4
> axles, like the ones Larry P makes) with more spaces for logos and not so hard
> to set up. And for you guys stuck on containers "it's a big conainer with
> wheels":)
This sounds like a good idea too. I would like to try one anyway. It doesn't
sound to difficult but could someone post a link to one just so us non-train
guys can have a referance.
Thanks,
Eric Kingsley
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
View My Creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> And if some club can pick up some commercial $pon$or$hip, real corporate logos
> are OK too! For enough moolah, anyway.
>
> ++Lar
Larry,
This was something I was toying with for our club one day, glad to see I'm not the
only one. I though what a nice way to make some money for the LTC would be to sell
ad space on the layout, boxcars, billboards, actual buildings (i.e. car dealers,
restaurants, etc.) to local business in the area of the club.
I was going to put a page together on the club site and see if I can get a few
local business try it out. Maybe do a few for free just to get some material for
promoting the idea.
Has anyone else tried this yet?
jt
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James J. Trobaugh
North Georgia LEGO Train Club
http://www.ngltc.org
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In lugnet.trains, James J. Trobaugh writes:
>
> Larry,
>
> This was something I was toying with for our club one day,
> glad to see I'm not the
> only one. I though what a nice way to make some money for
> the LTC would be to sell
> ad space on the layout, boxcars, billboards, actual buildings
> (i.e. car dealers,
> restaurants, etc.) to local business in the area of the club.
>
> I was going to put a page together on the club site and see if I can get a few
> local business try it out.
> Maybe do a few for free just to get some material for
> promoting the idea.
>
> Has anyone else tried this yet?
I also thought of trying ad space idea on my layouts, back in my solo day. But
now maybe I should try this idea with the club, it would be nice to get cash
for more stuff. Perhaps one day all the LTC could link up and get big sponsors
like COKE or TRU? Who knows where this could go, but don't quit your day jobs
yet!
Robin Werner
GFLTC
http://members.xoom.com
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In lugnet.trains, Dan Parker writes:
> Eric,
> this shall do nicely -- Pls take note everyone!
Some of the German AFOLs plan to offer containers for the PNLTC too. Here comes
my first drafts of two containers:
http://www.f5.parsimony.net/forum5725/messages/8213.htm
I think I would offer to send them one way: the worth of such a small container
would be succeded by the shipping prizes....
But I won't send the flatcar. That's just a very prototypical version to show,
how the containers look like.
Best Regards,
Ben
P.s.: Now I have to check shipping costs and how many people will do some PR
for their homepages...
P.p.s.: Would it be possible to make up a page with links to the homepages of
all people who send their own container? I think you can't read the URLs on the
small models themselves.
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