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Subject: 
Prototype sources (was Re: New MOC Engine: DB V140
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.build
Date: 
Thu, 24 Dec 1998 17:53:59 GMT
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A repost from RTL. I said this (and cross posted to rec.model.railroad)
in response to Bruce asking for prototype sources as a result of seeing
James' model:

Bruce wrote:
James said (about building his LEGO creation)
I worked from a photo of a Marklin model of the DB V140.

Are there any places to call, or on the web, to get catalogs of model trains
you can buy. I'm looking for something I can look at while building to get
ideas from. If anyone's got numbers or URLs of places with (preferably free)
catalogs, let me know. I'm sure a web search would turn some up, this might
just save some time by asking.
Bye
Bruce

Walthers is a good source, but the catalog now costs 20 bucks per scale,
it is so big. Sells out quickly, usually.

There are a few sites of model manufacturers as well. Myself, I just go
back into my stack of Model Railroader magazines (I have about 25 years
worth) or TRAINS magazines (more like 30) for ideas when the muse
doesn't strike me. (1)

Another good approach is to try to find the websites of fans that are
devoted to particular lines, or to the prototype lines themselves (NS
and BNSF come to mind as potential sites (http://www.bnsf.com/,
http://www.conrail.com/, http://www.nscorp.com))

I haven't looked in a while but there must be a master NMRA site that
will get you rolling. (http://www.mcs.net:80/~weyand/nmra/) I know that
model railroaders have been using the web for several years now. Spend
some time in rec.model.railroad and I bet you'll get lots of urls to
start digging around in.

1- but I confess, I have more ideas than time to build. I get ideas and
I forget. Suzanne Rich has a good idea, she carries a sketchbook with
her at all times to capture ideas about assemblies, things to model,
etc.


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Subject: 
Re: Prototype sources (was Re: New MOC Engine: DB V140
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.build
Date: 
Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:41:26 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

A repost from RTL. I said this (and cross posted to rec.model.railroad)

The above should be rec.MODELS.railroad. I cancelled and reposted.
Whoops!

I also put up a message in that same group, crossposted to RTL, to wit:
(Comments welcome!)

-- start --
To rec.models.railroad readers:

I'm a long time railfan, had a continuous subscription to TRAINS since
1970. I was an active model railroader for many years, but recently
dormant. I lurk here on RMR occasionally.

I just wanted to mention something to folks that might not know about
it.

There is an active community of folks who model using LEGO brand
building blocks. That's right, LEGO! LEGO has provided a number of train
related elements, motors, track, wheels and so forth, and some of us
have built quite elaborate models. LEGO always has 1 or two train sets
in their line to help people get started.

While the impositions of the medium make our models look somewhat
"tinplate"ish, I'd stand some of our best work up with pride as
capturing the essence of railroading.

Why Lego?

If you can't get a look, or a mechanism, just right, just take it apart
and try again. The motors and track are ultra reliable, stuff just
works. LEGO Technic allows building of operating accessories like
bridges and turntables. LEGO Mindstorms offers the possibility of
automation of train operation and accessories. You can include your kids
at a much earlier age, they relate well. And best of all, if a model
falls off the table, it doesn't get damaged! You just put it back
together again. When I dropped my ATSF PA-1 (1), the shell cracked and I
had to get another shell. And I was lucky, I could have damaged the
mechanism too, but fortunately Athearn built good stuff, even back in
1973.

So I get a lot of fulfillment from LEGO. I have built some rather big
models, but nothing like the modular layouts that have been done in the
Pacific Northwest and shown at various train shows by the Pacific
Northwest Lego Train Club.

We hang out on rec.toys.lego and on the new LUGNET newsgroups,
especially lugnet.trains (for info on the latter see
http://www.lugnet.com/news/ )

For some sites to see some of our best work, go here:
http://www.pnltc.org
  (the PNLTC)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/
  (comprehensive info on the LEGO Train and monorail lines)
http://members.aol.com/regult/index.html
  (a shelf switching layout)
http://www.ee.nmt.edu/~jmathis/legopage.html
  (master builder, his monorail station is breathtaking)
http://my.voyager.net/lar
  (me. I like modern US prototype stuff)

So please, come check it out! We're modelers too, just working in a
different medium.

1 - THE most beautiful diesel, IMHO, bar none, is a PA-1 in warbonnet
paint...

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Subject: 
Re: Prototype sources (was Re: New MOC Engine: DB V140
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.build
Date: 
Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:59:02 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

A repost from RTL. I said this (and cross posted to rec.model.railroad)

The above should be rec.MODELS.railroad. I cancelled and reposted.
Whoops!

I also put up a message in that same group, crossposted to RTL, to wit:
(Comments welcome!)

  ---  Long post snipped  ---

    It will be interesting to see what reactions you get from
    the model railroaders.


--
Paul Foster
http://reality.sgi.com/foster_stco/lego.html


Subject: 
Re: Prototype sources (was Re: New MOC Engine: DB V140
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.build
Date: 
Thu, 24 Dec 1998 19:43:40 GMT
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Paul Foster wrote:


    It will be interesting to see what reactions you get from
    the model railroaders.

It may not have been the best time to post what with the holidays, etc.

But there are responses already. One bore fruit! Check out this Conrail
engine...

http://members.xoom.com/robstorm/rlz-trs.htm

Does anyone recognise the cab side windows? The trick of using a gear
for the fan is a good one, worthy of use elsewhere in modern american
proto stuff.

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Subject: 
Site found RMR link (was Re: Prototype sources (was Re: New MOC Engine: DB V140
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Date: 
Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:21:55 GMT
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OK, just one more, this site is a treasure trove of good stuff:

http://members.xoom.com/robstorm/98sshow5.jpg

Check out the transfer table, which appears to be operational, the
Conrail color scheme switcher, the water tower, the engine house (with
signals, roll up doors, and skylights), the riptrack (repair area) the
bustling city behind the engine house, and the 6 wide monorails.

Oh, and the non lego ground cover.

What I liked about this site are the well integrated MOC buildings and
vehicles with TLG designed stuff. Many of the buildings clearly take
hints from TLG designs to new levels. Check out the multilevel
monorail/train station in yellow...


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Subject: 
Re: Prototype sources (was Re: New MOC Engine: DB V140
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Date: 
Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:08:24 GMT
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Well, here is a good link for people looking for prototype sources.

http://www.rrhistorical.com/nmra/nmralink.html

3000 links to railroad sites!

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Subject: 
Re: Prototype sources (was Re: New MOC Engine: DB V140
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Date: 
Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:55:29 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek writes:
Well, here is a good link for people looking for prototype sources.

http://www.rrhistorical.com/nmra/nmralink.html

3000 links to railroad sites!

And here's one link for European Trains:

http://mercurio.iet.unipi.it/pix/

Loads of pictures of all railways in Europe.

Mark
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