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Subject: 
New train MOC pictures
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Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:34:59 GMT
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The first new pictures of my train MOCs have appeared on Brickshelf:
LMS 2-6-0+0-6-2T Garratt Steam Engine:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706026
This has 5 motors (2 train, 2x 71427 and 1 micro motor in the cab to turn the
coal bunker) and working valve gear.

Toby the Tram:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706024
Complete with driver and fireman, bell (a mug) cowcatchers and side plates.

Large Layout showing Pendolino, 9F steamer with cement tankers, Class 66 (made
by GM in London, Ontario) and Hogwarts Express:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706042
Notice also the platforms and bridge, made from Darth Maul heads and beige
plates from diving and Western sets, and the signals.
This layout takes 8 hours to set up and we have to hire a van to move it!

Small Layout showing myself and my dedicated wife with our trains at Swindon
STEAM Museum:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706046
The picture was taken by Huw Millington.  We were exhibiting here alongside
other members of the Brickish Association.
Static trains L-R: Pendolino end car, the stand with Class 20, 9F, 66, Peak (44)
and LMS Garratt and the small layout 8ft x 6ft, running Thomas characters and
the Hogwarts Express.  This layout fits in the car and takes about 1.5 hours to
set up.

There'll be more to follow soon!
LMKWYT

Mark Bellis


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:17:55 GMT
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These aren't moderated yet, you might want to share the deep links (click on
the picture so you get the link that ends in .jpg).

Frank

"Mark Bellis" <m.j.e.bellis-01@student.lboro.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:HvCrqB.1Los@lugnet.com...
The first new pictures of my train MOCs have appeared on Brickshelf:
LMS 2-6-0+0-6-2T Garratt Steam Engine:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706026
This has 5 motors (2 train, 2x 71427 and 1 micro motor in the cab to turn • the
coal bunker) and working valve gear.

Toby the Tram:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706024
Complete with driver and fireman, bell (a mug) cowcatchers and side • plates.

Large Layout showing Pendolino, 9F steamer with cement tankers, Class 66 • (made
by GM in London, Ontario) and Hogwarts Express:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706042
Notice also the platforms and bridge, made from Darth Maul heads and beige
plates from diving and Western sets, and the signals.
This layout takes 8 hours to set up and we have to hire a van to move it!

Small Layout showing myself and my dedicated wife with our trains at • Swindon
STEAM Museum:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706046
The picture was taken by Huw Millington.  We were exhibiting here • alongside
other members of the Brickish Association.
Static trains L-R: Pendolino end car, the stand with Class 20, 9F, 66, • Peak (44)
and LMS Garratt and the small layout 8ft x 6ft, running Thomas characters • and
the Hogwarts Express.  This layout fits in the car and takes about 1.5 • hours to
set up.

There'll be more to follow soon!
LMKWYT

Mark Bellis


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:32:20 GMT
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That's weird, I could click on the links around a half hour ago and they worked.
Now I can't see 'em--they're not moderated.

Maybe there's a security issue at Brickshelf

Just giving ya a heads up.

Btw, nice locos!

Dave K



In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz wrote:
These aren't moderated yet, you might want to share the deep links (click on
the picture so you get the link that ends in .jpg).

Frank

"Mark Bellis" <m.j.e.bellis-01@student.lboro.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:HvCrqB.1Los@lugnet.com...
The first new pictures of my train MOCs have appeared on Brickshelf:
LMS 2-6-0+0-6-2T Garratt Steam Engine:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706026
This has 5 motors (2 train, 2x 71427 and 1 micro motor in the cab to turn the
coal bunker) and working valve gear.

Toby the Tram:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706024
Complete with driver and fireman, bell (a mug) cowcatchers and side plates.

Large Layout showing Pendolino, 9F steamer with cement tankers, Class 66 (made
by GM in London, Ontario) and Hogwarts Express:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706042
Notice also the platforms and bridge, made from Darth Maul heads and beige
plates from diving and Western sets, and the signals.
This layout takes 8 hours to set up and we have to hire a van to move it!

Small Layout showing myself and my dedicated wife with our trains at Swindon
STEAM Museum:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706046
The picture was taken by Huw Millington.  We were exhibiting here alongside
other members of the Brickish Association.
Static trains L-R: Pendolino end car, the stand with Class 20, 9F, 66, Peak (44)
and LMS Garratt and the small layout 8ft x 6ft, running Thomas characters and
the Hogwarts Express.  This layout fits in the car and takes about 1.5 hours to
set up.

There'll be more to follow soon!
LMKWYT

Mark Bellis


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:03:24 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, David Koudys wrote:
That's weird, I could click on the links around a half hour ago and they worked.
Now I can't see 'em--they're not moderated.

Maybe there's a security issue at Brickshelf

Just giving ya a heads up.

Btw, nice locos!

Dave K

In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz wrote:
These aren't moderated yet, you might want to share the deep links (click on
the picture so you get the link that ends in .jpg).

Frank

I think that's 'cos I put some more pics on there about an hour ago.  Perhaps
the moderator takes all the user's directories that contain pictures off line
while the new stuff is moderated, even if there's already moderated stuff in
there.  When the moderator has finished there'll be a lot more pics, so here's
the link to the trains directory:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=62749

Have a browse around!  There's Diesels, Electric, Steam, Layouts, Wagons,
Scenery and mixed trains.  I just put another film's worth of stuff on, from the
exhibition at Kidderminster, UK earlier this month.  Another 3,200 people saw
the trains.  That makes about 30,000 now.  Railway modellers of all scales and
gauges are really beginning to warm to it, especially because it's built to
scale and operated prototypically.

Mark


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:18:33 GMT
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Already saved in the Mark Bellis Folder! Whats with the 'kid' bit in all the
image names? I can't wait to see some of these in the ABS

Tim


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.uk
Date: 
Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:53:50 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
Already saved in the Mark Bellis Folder! Whats with the 'kid' bit in all the
image names? I can't wait to see some of these in the ABS

Tim

Kid is short for Kidderminster, where we exhibited the large layout (16ft x
12ft) earlier this month.  Dby is short for Derby, where we were in April 2003.

I hope my cutting out of the salient bits of photos has kept the download time
reasonable.  The full pictures on the CD are 1536x1024, which is a bit big for
those who don't have broadband.  I particularly like the pic of BoCo, since it
fills the picture, it's green and you can almost see the SNOT on the front end.
The duck-egg blue stripes on the sides are made from the plates from 2 HP Privet
Drive sets.

In the pic that Huw took of the small layout, the Pendolino (Richard Branson's
new toy) is tilting, using bevel gears.  Perhaps someone would like to make an
Acela train with a similar feature?  I might have a go when I get more into
American trains.  I have just a couple of doodles ATM.

We'll have the small layout (8ft x 6ft) with static display of the larger
engines (though the Peak and 66 might run) at the Brickish Association AGM on
17th April at Dilhorne, near Stoke-on Trent, UK.

Mark


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.uk
Date: 
Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:07:45 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Mark Bellis wrote:
Perhaps someone would like to make an
Acela train with a similar feature?  I might have a go when I get more into
American trains.  I have just a couple of doodles ATM.

Bevel gears? WAY overengineered. Someone did a tilting metroliner that uses no
gears at all, just slanted truck mounts. VERY clever. This was at least 3 years
ago IIRC...

I am 80% sure (but not 100%) it was either E. Brok or J. Mathis.


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.uk
Date: 
Thu, 1 Apr 2004 22:32:55 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Mark Bellis wrote:
Perhaps someone would like to make an
Acela train with a similar feature?  I might have a go when I get more into
American trains.  I have just a couple of doodles ATM.

Bevel gears? WAY overengineered. Someone did a tilting metroliner that uses no
gears at all, just slanted truck mounts. VERY clever. This was at least 3 years
ago IIRC...

I am 80% sure (but not 100%) it was either E. Brok or J. Mathis.

Ah, but how did it cope with double bends?
The Hornby APT, which uses either slanted mounts or a contoured track, rises up
on double bends in a most unprototypical fashion.
My Pendolino doesn't rise up.  Also, the pantographs don't tilt on the real
thing and don't tilt on mine either.

Surely building trains with Lego is model engineering anyway?  I was born an
engineer - making trains work is even more important to me than making them look
exactly right.  The same applies to the valve gear on my steam engines -
sometimes it's a bit wide for the scale but it moves correctly, much to the
public's enjoyment.

I get lots of requests for the Pendolino to run at exhibitions:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=707093
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=707098
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706042
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706046

and a fair few for the Garratt, mainly from real enthusiasts:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=706026

Mark


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Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.uk
Date: 
Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:37:13 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Mark Bellis wrote:
Perhaps someone would like to make an
Acela train with a similar feature?  I might have a go when I get more into
American trains.  I have just a couple of doodles ATM.

Bevel gears? WAY overengineered. Someone did a tilting metroliner that uses no
gears at all, just slanted truck mounts. VERY clever. This was at least 3 years
ago IIRC...

I am 80% sure (but not 100%) it was either E. Brok or J. Mathis.

Larry,

I built a tilting train about 4 years ago but that was based loosely on the
4559. It used the same principles (slanted truck pivots) with tune-able lean
angles and could snake through S-bends at reasonable speeds. Only reason I broke
it up was because it had done the rounds and I wanted to build something else.

Something more substantial like the bevel-gear approach is necessary in any case
with models the size and weight of Mark's. I've seen his Pendolino in action and
although the angle of lean is quite moderate, it stays together quite well! With
the lighter 6-wide bodies I found it best to use a single common truck (bogie)
between the coaches and built in a simple .'master and slave' leaning mechanism
to prevent violent or impossible movements when the bogies pointed at
contradicting angles of rotation.

Might have an old pic somewhere

Jon


Subject: 
Re: New train MOC pictures
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.uk
Date: 
Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:06:40 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Mark Bellis wrote:
Perhaps someone would like to make an
Acela train with a similar feature?  I might have a go when I get more into
American trains.  I have just a couple of doodles ATM.

Bevel gears? WAY overengineered. Someone did a tilting metroliner that uses no
gears at all, just slanted truck mounts. VERY clever. This was at least 3 years
ago IIRC...

I am 80% sure (but not 100%) it was either E. Brok or J. Mathis.

Larry, you wanted to see some more pictures of the Pendolino.  Tony Priestman
took this last year, showing the bevel gear mechanism at each end of each coach:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=334088
The 6-wide frame doesn't tilt, but supports the bogie below and the body either
side.  An extended axle goes from here to the middle of the coach.

In the middle a set of 4 bevel gears makes the body act like the differential
gear of a car, tilting by the average amount of turn of the two bogies.  To take
up the play in the cogs I put a weight block under the middle of the coach, to
help bring it back to level on the straights.

The tilt on it is about 8 degrees on an 80ft radius curve (in 8mm:1ft scale),
which is alternate straights and curves.  It won't go round anything tighter,
but was really made to go at speed round 120ft radius curves, made from
alternating a curve and 2 straights.  It will do up to 80mph scale speed round
these curves, but it really needs smoother wide curves to go any faster.

Mark


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