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In lugnet.robotics.palm, Dean Husby writes:
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> "Bluey" <Wolf_and_eagle@spamblock.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Gz35x1.5t8@lugnet.com...
> > How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?
> >
> > How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
> > a program that communicates with the RCX?
>
> I have an iPAQ 3670 and use the following software with the iPAQ.
> http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/rcx/rcx.html
>
> There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the serial
> tower and a nulmodem cable.
>
> It works great however, you can even download firmware!
>
> Dean
That's not true...
I've controlled my RCX, Scout, and Spybotic with my iPAQ 3635 through the
IrDA port. I used a demo version of "TV Remote Controller v3.0" from
http://www.pdawin.com.
I think those programs use the 3-wire mode of IrDA. More info here:
http://www.irda.org/standards/pubs/ircomm10.pdf
An RS-232 port with an IR LED and phototranistor should be able to simulate
a 38KHz modulated 2400bps signal by sending three bytes of 0x55 @
76800-7-N-1 (if I figured everything correctly).
Hmmm... could the iPaq serial port be set to 76800-7-N-1 and could a simple
2x4 brick with an IR LED and phototransistor be used rather than the bulky
serial tower?
I'd still rather use the IrDA port, but something smaller than the IR tower
would be a good start.
- Rob
PS - I cross-posted this response because it touches Spybotics and Robotics
with respect to communication methods.
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"Bluey" <Wolf_and_eagle@spamblock.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Gz35x1.5t8@lugnet.com...
> How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?
>
> How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
> a program that communicates with the RCX?
I have an iPAQ 3670 and use the following software with the iPAQ.
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/rcx/rcx.html
There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the serial
tower and a nulmodem cable.
It works great however, you can even download firmware!
Dean
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How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?
How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
a program that communicates with the RCX?
Tim
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"John Barnes" <barnes@sensors.com> wrote in message
news:Gs3Dus.6z2@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.robotics, Mike Fusion writes:
>
> > > URL for that mini tower?
> > >
> > > Dean
> >
> >
> > Well. I can't seem to find it, I did get mine as a demo from John, He sent
> > me a GIF of the circuit but i can't find that either. I don't think that he
> > decided to put them into production, but i do believe that if you asked him
> > he might send you the circuit. i'd like to take mine apart to see how he
> > free-formed it but i'm scared to. the whole thing fits into two 2x4 bricks.
> >
> > if anyone wants the original thing i got for porting NQC to WindowsCE i can
> > send it to them. found it and it does include a workaround for using the
> > standard powered tower with the RS232S (or C?) port.
>
>
> it's;
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11799
>
> JB
just thinking about it, one should be able to adapt the circuit to take a
smaller battery add-on to use with a palm size-PC or a pocket PC. I will
put the original source for porting to Windows CE on my site later this week
when the re-vamp happens. I think that I have found the original posting.
(some problems when you completely change computers)
m.
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In lugnet.robotics, Mike Fusion writes:
> > URL for that mini tower?
> >
> > Dean
>
>
> Well. I can't seem to find it, I did get mine as a demo from John, He sent
> me a GIF of the circuit but i can't find that either. I don't think that he
> decided to put them into production, but i do believe that if you asked him
> he might send you the circuit. i'd like to take mine apart to see how he
> free-formed it but i'm scared to. the whole thing fits into two 2x4 bricks.
>
> if anyone wants the original thing i got for porting NQC to WindowsCE i can
> send it to them. found it and it does include a workaround for using the
> standard powered tower with the RS232S (or C?) port.
it's;
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11799
JB
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"Dean Husby" <nntp@akasa.bc.ca> wrote in message
news:Gs0uDw.M70@lugnet.com...
>
> "Mike Fusion" <mikefusion@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:GrrJF7.K90@lugnet.com...
> >
> > "Steven B. Combs" <stevencombs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:GrquFB.3IM@lugnet.com...
> > > "brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
> > > > i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a program
> > > > that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control
> > the
> > > RCX.
> > >
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear what
> > > others say.
> > >
> > > Steven
> >
> > the problem with trying to hack the IR port on a Windows CE machine is that
> > the IR is part of the chip architecture. There were some work arounds for
> > the SIMS but since Motorola pretty much ahs the market on PSPC's you're
> > probably going to have to be stuck with the MIPS. there is a version of NQC
> > for PSPC's (i have it somewhere) that also has a workaround for adapting the
> > IR tower to some of the RS232C (or S?) ports included on them. you may want
> > to see if there is a way to power them through the port with John Barnes
> > smaller IR tower (I'm really happy with mine) it's hella cool.
>
> URL for that mini tower?
>
> Dean
Well. I can't seem to find it, I did get mine as a demo from John, He sent
me a GIF of the circuit but i can't find that either. I don't think that he
decided to put them into production, but i do believe that if you asked him
he might send you the circuit. i'd like to take mine apart to see how he
free-formed it but i'm scared to. the whole thing fits into two 2x4 bricks.
if anyone wants the original thing i got for porting NQC to WindowsCE i can
send it to them. found it and it does include a workaround for using the
standard powered tower with the RS232S (or C?) port.
ask for it off list.
m.
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"Mike Fusion" <mikefusion@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GrrJF7.K90@lugnet.com...
>
> "Steven B. Combs" <stevencombs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:GrquFB.3IM@lugnet.com...
> > "brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
> > > i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a program
> > > that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control the
> > RCX.
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear what
> > others say.
> >
> > Steven
>
> the problem with trying to hack the IR port on a Windows CE machine is that
> the IR is part of the chip architecture. There were some work arounds for
> the SIMS but since Motorola pretty much ahs the market on PSPC's you're
> probably going to have to be stuck with the MIPS. there is a version of NQC
> for PSPC's (i have it somewhere) that also has a workaround for adapting the
> IR tower to some of the RS232C (or S?) ports included on them. you may want
> to see if there is a way to power them through the port with John Barnes
> smaller IR tower (I'm really happy with mine) it's hella cool.
URL for that mini tower?
Dean
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"Steven B. Combs" <stevencombs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GrquFB.3IM@lugnet.com...
> "brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
> > i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a program
> > that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control the
> RCX.
>
> Brian,
>
> I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear what
> others say.
>
> Steven
the problem with trying to hack the IR port on a Windows CE machine is that
the IR is part of the chip architecture. There were some work arounds for
the SIMS but since Motorola pretty much ahs the market on PSPC's you're
probably going to have to be stuck with the MIPS. there is a version of NQC
for PSPC's (i have it somewhere) that also has a workaround for adapting the
IR tower to some of the RS232C (or S?) ports included on them. you may want
to see if there is a way to power them through the port with John Barnes
smaller IR tower (I'm really happy with mine) it's hella cool.
my $.02 USD
m.
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"brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
> i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a program
> that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control the
RCX.
Brian,
I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear what
others say.
Steven
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i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a program
that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control the RCX.
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In lugnet.general, Chris Busse writes:
> I have been playing around lately with creating web pages for use on PalmOS &
> Windows CE devices through the free AvantGo (http://www.avantgo.com) service.
>
> I was wondering if there was any interest in the community to develop LEGO
> related content for the hand held (PalmOS, CE) devices...
Content for your PocketPC or Palm is now available. I have been working
hard the last few weeks creating a pocket presence for the Advanced Building
Brick hobbyist. Using the new Mazingo service, I have created the new
e-journal "Bricks in my Pocket (BimP)." I could restate everything that is
found in the e-journal here, but the web site says it all.
If you have a PocketPC, you can subscribe to the journal by selecting the
link below:
http://www.mazingo.net/pc/subscribe.php?site_id=311
If you use the Avantgo service, you can create your own channel by using the
following link:
http://www.graphics-plus.com/BimP
Be advised that only 7 subscriptions using Avantgo are available. Avantgo
wants $1000 to create a channel using their service. I have created the
site in hopes of one day raising the funds (the site is Charityware after
operating recovery costs - see the site for more info).
If you are not a PDA users and just want to view the content, you can also
use the link provided above.
The site as it stands now has these areas:
* Latest News
* Reviews
* Contests and Events
* Featured Models (Someone you all know and respect will be submitting the
first model!)
Their is also a submission page that displays the details of how you can
make a submission to BimP.
I just made the site live and already have 17 subscribers. Doesn't sound
like many, but I can tell from this encouraging number that there are many
PDA users who would like have access to fun LEGO content within the palm of
their hand (sure makes stuffy meetings more fun!)
Please be aware that this is not a Lugnet competitor...but rather a
compliment as many of the contributer's items posted here may eventually
wind up at BimP. Remember BimP will only succeed if I have contributors.
I look forward to your reviews of this exciting new project.
Steven B. Combs, Editor
Bricks in my Pocket (BimP)
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Dean Husby <nntp@akasa.bc.ca> writes:
> Dennis Clark wrote:
>
> I'm guessing that using the built in IR port is close to
> the signal needed but not quite there. It's a shame LEGO
> used such an alien signal for their towers.
It's very close to what is used in standard remote controls,
so it's a natural choice and not that alien. They couldn't
use the Irda protocol used in Notebooks or handhelds because
it is too complicated for such a small computer as the RCX.
Jürgen
--
Jürgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr>
http://www.loria.fr/~stuber/
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Dennis Clark wrote:
> In lugnet.robotics.palm, Paul Ellams writes:
> > Just thought people might like to know I have
> > developed a piece of Palm Software called
> > Robotic Mover which allows you to remotely
> > control your RCX.
> >
> > Unlike the other available software, This
> > does actually use the built in infrared
> > port of the Palm Organiser rather than
> > the Lego IR tower.
>
> Paul,
>
> Nice work - I installed it on my Visor Platinum, but it acts weird. The
> Forward/back arrows run motor A, the left/right motor B and the buttons to
> the right motor C. The motor 1/2/3 buttons do nothing and the stop button
> will not stop a running program. I didn't find any instructions on usage
> anywhere, am I using it incorrectly? Finally, it doesn't work at all on
> the scout, why would that be? The universal (LEGO) remote works on the Scout
> as well, I figured that the Scout and RCX used the same over-ride codes, but
> I guess not!
>
> thanks,
> DLC
I'm guessing that using the built in IR port is close to the signal needed but
not quite there. It's a shame LEGO used such an alien signal for their towers.
But I really do love having FULL NQC on my iPAQ! At our last show I was able to
fully program (with firmware) 4 bricks and 4 different automatons...
The power of the handheld!
Dean
--
Dean Husby
LUGNET Member #320
TFM's LEGO Workshop - www.akasa.bc.ca/tfm
The Vancouver LEGO Club - www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/
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In lugnet.robotics.palm, Paul Ellams writes:
> Just thought people might like to know I have
> developed a piece of Palm Software called
> Robotic Mover which allows you to remotely
> control your RCX.
>
> Unlike the other available software, This
> does actually use the built in infrared
> port of the Palm Organiser rather than
> the Lego IR tower.
Paul,
Nice work - I installed it on my Visor Platinum, but it acts weird. The
Forward/back arrows run motor A, the left/right motor B and the buttons to
the right motor C. The motor 1/2/3 buttons do nothing and the stop button
will not stop a running program. I didn't find any instructions on usage
anywhere, am I using it incorrectly? Finally, it doesn't work at all on
the scout, why would that be? The universal (LEGO) remote works on the Scout
as well, I figured that the Scout and RCX used the same over-ride codes, but
I guess not!
thanks,
DLC
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I've been very interested in tightly coupling my Palm and RCX for over a
year. Simply put, I want to have the Palm be a higher level 'brain' for my
robotic creations, acutally being part of the robot.
I use Forth for the majority of my Palm coding and have it talking to the
RCX now, using the IR port connected to the Palm serial port, but that is a
horrible combination to place into a robot. Three pieces of hardware and
LOTS of cable.
I am curious, are you willing to share your technique of IR control? I'd
like to port it to Forth.
thanks for any help you can provide
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