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Subject: 
NXT, Bluetooth, and Palm
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.nxt, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:17:02 GMT
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Ok, so after 7 years of using my faithful Palm Vx, syncing it to my Kubuntu
Linux machine at work put something on it to make it fatally crash every time I
ran the calendar.  Seeing as this was the most important function of the Palm, I
decided it was time to upgrade and make everything run as if it was no longer
1999.

So I now have a new Palm T|X with Bluetooth and WiFi.

Oh, I also have an NXT, so you can see where this post is heading...

I write little programs using bricxcc and NXC, since I like to write programs
more than I like to drag-and-drop.

So, how to I make my Palm tell the NXT what to do?  Suppose I just have a little
program that makes a motor run and drive a car forward; how do I make the Palm
control the NXT?

I was able to get the NXT and Palm to see each other, I think.  But I really
have no idea what to do past that.  Anyone have any tutorials, lessons learned,
or smart-alek advice?

Thanks,
Rafe


Subject: 
Would Like Recommendations for a PDA....
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc, lugnet.robotics.rcx
Date: 
Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:19:49 GMT
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Hi All,

[Just fyi, this is my first post to Lugnet so if anything seems amiss, please
let me know :) ]

I'm in the market for a PDA so I can work on my NQC programming as well as word
processing. I have looked at a few of the Pocket PCs, such as the Toshiba e335,
and was impressed at least with the word processing capabilities.  However, the
main attribute that I would like to focus upon is the capability for it to do
NQC programming (since word processing is basically a given).

I would appreciate recommendations on what PDAs people are using now for their
robotics needs, particulary those using the NQCEditor GUI app.  And since this
is my first venture into the PDA world, any helpful primer links would be
appreciated as well :) [i.e. - what to look out for in the way of various types
of memory, internet devices, etc.]

It would be great to know the pros and cons of the Palm OS vs. the Pocket PC
Windows OS in regards to: installing and running NQC; the availability of
support products for the RCX, etc.  So if anyone has any comparison notes, I'd
really would appreciate reading them.

Thank you in advance for the help.

Claudia
ccoles_(underscore)shado@(shift_2)hotmail.(dot)com

[To "unspamblock" address:  delete parenthesis plus content within.]


Subject: 
NQC and iPAQ 3850
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto
Date: 
Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:14:46 GMT
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Hello,

I need some help. I've been trying to load the software that is available at
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/rcx/rcx.html onto my Compaq iPAQ 3850 without
much success.

1. What files do I need to download to run NQC on my iPAQ?
2. What are the iPAQ folders that the various files get copied into once
they have been extracted?
3. Is there anything else that needs to be done like updating the registry?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul


Subject: 
Re: Ipaq 3835: using building programs and using built-in IR
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.spybotics
Date: 
Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:56:39 GMT
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Wow, Someone who knows about this!!!

First off, do you have any clue on how to access the IR port from a embedded
VC++?

I know how to program in C++, and VisualBasic, but how does VisualC++ work?

I've never dealt with VC++, or any type of hardware access. How do I go
about doing this?

Tim

In lugnet.robotics.palm, Dean Husby writes:

"Rob Limbaugh" <rlimbaugh@ureach.com> wrote in message
news:H29JA5.D7t@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.robotics.palm, Dean Husby writes:

"Bluey" <Wolf_and_eagle@spamblock.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Gz35x1.5t8@lugnet.com...
How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?

How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
a program that communicates with the RCX?

I have an iPAQ 3670 and use the following software with the iPAQ.
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/rcx/rcx.html

There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the serial
tower and a nulmodem cable.

It works great however, you can even download firmware!

Dean

That's not true...

I was not referring to just simple commands. You can use some learning
remotes for that.

I'm talking about NQC support.

Dean

I've controlled my RCX, Scout, and Spybotic with my iPAQ 3635 through the
IrDA port.  I used a demo version of "TV Remote Controller v3.0" from
http://www.pdawin.com.

I think those programs use the 3-wire mode of IrDA.  More info here:
http://www.irda.org/standards/pubs/ircomm10.pdf

An RS-232 port with an IR LED and phototranistor should be able to • simulate
a 38KHz modulated 2400bps signal by sending three bytes of 0x55 @
76800-7-N-1 (if I figured everything correctly).

Hmmm... could the iPaq serial port be set to 76800-7-N-1 and could a • simple
2x4 brick with an IR LED and phototransistor be used rather than the bulky
serial tower?

I'd still rather use the IrDA port, but something smaller than the IR • tower
would be a good start.

- Rob

PS - I cross-posted this response because it touches Spybotics and • Robotics
with respect to communication methods.


Subject: 
Re: Ipaq 3835: using building programs and using built-in IR
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.spybotics
Date: 
Thu, 12 Sep 2002 03:51:23 GMT
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"Rob Limbaugh" <rlimbaugh@ureach.com> wrote in message
news:H29JA5.D7t@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.robotics.palm, Dean Husby writes:

"Bluey" <Wolf_and_eagle@spamblock.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Gz35x1.5t8@lugnet.com...
How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?

How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
a program that communicates with the RCX?

I have an iPAQ 3670 and use the following software with the iPAQ.
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/rcx/rcx.html

There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the serial
tower and a nulmodem cable.

It works great however, you can even download firmware!

Dean

That's not true...

I was not referring to just simple commands. You can use some learning
remotes for that.

I'm talking about NQC support.

Dean

I've controlled my RCX, Scout, and Spybotic with my iPAQ 3635 through the
IrDA port.  I used a demo version of "TV Remote Controller v3.0" from
http://www.pdawin.com.

I think those programs use the 3-wire mode of IrDA.  More info here:
http://www.irda.org/standards/pubs/ircomm10.pdf

An RS-232 port with an IR LED and phototranistor should be able to • simulate
a 38KHz modulated 2400bps signal by sending three bytes of 0x55 @
76800-7-N-1 (if I figured everything correctly).

Hmmm... could the iPaq serial port be set to 76800-7-N-1 and could a • simple
2x4 brick with an IR LED and phototransistor be used rather than the bulky
serial tower?

I'd still rather use the IrDA port, but something smaller than the IR • tower
would be a good start.

- Rob

PS - I cross-posted this response because it touches Spybotics and • Robotics
with respect to communication methods.


Subject: 
Re: Ipaq 3835: using building programs and using built-in IR
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.spybotics
Date: 
Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:25:17 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics.palm, Dean Husby writes:

"Bluey" <Wolf_and_eagle@spamblock.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Gz35x1.5t8@lugnet.com...
How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?

How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
a program that communicates with the RCX?

I have an iPAQ 3670 and use the following software with the iPAQ.
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/rcx/rcx.html

There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the serial
tower and a nulmodem cable.

It works great however, you can even download firmware!

Dean

That's not true...

I've controlled my RCX, Scout, and Spybotic with my iPAQ 3635 through the
IrDA port.  I used a demo version of "TV Remote Controller v3.0" from
http://www.pdawin.com.

I think those programs use the 3-wire mode of IrDA.  More info here:
http://www.irda.org/standards/pubs/ircomm10.pdf

An RS-232 port with an IR LED and phototranistor should be able to simulate
a 38KHz modulated 2400bps signal by sending three bytes of 0x55 @
76800-7-N-1 (if I figured everything correctly).

Hmmm... could the iPaq serial port be set to 76800-7-N-1 and could a simple
2x4 brick with an IR LED and phototransistor be used rather than the bulky
serial tower?

I'd still rather use the IrDA port, but something smaller than the IR tower
would be a good start.

- Rob

PS - I cross-posted this response because it touches Spybotics and Robotics
with respect to communication methods.


Subject: 
Re: Ipaq 3835: using building programs and using built-in IR
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Sun, 18 Aug 2002 03:39:20 GMT
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3678 times
  
"Bluey" <Wolf_and_eagle@spamblock.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Gz35x1.5t8@lugnet.com...
How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?

How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
a program that communicates with the RCX?

I have an iPAQ 3670 and use the following software with the iPAQ.
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/rcx/rcx.html

There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the serial
tower and a nulmodem cable.

It works great however, you can even download firmware!

Dean


Subject: 
Ipaq 3835: using building programs and using built-in IR
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:10:13 GMT
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How does one compile programs for a Pocket PC 2002?

How would I find the specifications for the IR circuitry to build
a program that communicates with the RCX?

Tim


Subject: 
Re: windows ce
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:17:37 GMT
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"John Barnes" <barnes@sensors.com> wrote in message
news:Gs3Dus.6z2@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.robotics, Mike Fusion writes:

URL for that mini tower?

Dean


Well. I can't seem to find it, I did get mine as a demo from John, He • sent
me a GIF of the circuit but i can't find that either.  I don't think that • he
decided to put them into production, but i do believe that if you asked • him
he might send you the circuit.  i'd like to take mine apart to see how he
free-formed it but i'm scared to.  the whole thing fits into two 2x4 • bricks.

if anyone wants the original thing i got for porting NQC to WindowsCE i • can
send it to them.  found it and it does include a workaround for using the
standard powered tower with the RS232S (or C?) port.


it's;

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11799

JB

just thinking about it, one should be able to adapt the circuit to take a
smaller battery add-on to use with a palm size-PC or a pocket PC.  I will
put the original source for porting to Windows CE on my site later this week
when the re-vamp happens.  I think that I have found the original posting.
(some problems when you completely change computers)
m.


Subject: 
Re: windows ce
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:06:28 GMT
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4492 times
  
In lugnet.robotics, Mike Fusion writes:

URL for that mini tower?

Dean


Well. I can't seem to find it, I did get mine as a demo from John, He sent
me a GIF of the circuit but i can't find that either.  I don't think that he
decided to put them into production, but i do believe that if you asked him
he might send you the circuit.  i'd like to take mine apart to see how he
free-formed it but i'm scared to.  the whole thing fits into two 2x4 bricks.

if anyone wants the original thing i got for porting NQC to WindowsCE i can
send it to them.  found it and it does include a workaround for using the
standard powered tower with the RS232S (or C?) port.


it's;

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11799

JB


Subject: 
Re: windows ce
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Mon, 25 Feb 2002 01:40:22 GMT
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"Dean Husby" <nntp@akasa.bc.ca> wrote in message
news:Gs0uDw.M70@lugnet.com...

"Mike Fusion" <mikefusion@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GrrJF7.K90@lugnet.com...

"Steven B. Combs" <stevencombs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GrquFB.3IM@lugnet.com...
"brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a • program
that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to • control
the
RCX.

Brian,

I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear • what
others say.

Steven

the problem with trying to hack the IR port on a Windows CE machine is • that
the IR is part of the chip architecture. There were some work arounds • for
the SIMS but since Motorola pretty much ahs the market on PSPC's you're
probably going to have to be stuck with the MIPS.  there is a version of • NQC
for PSPC's (i have it somewhere) that also has a workaround for adapting • the
IR tower to some of the RS232C (or S?) ports included on them.  you may • want
to see if there is a way to power them through the port with John Barnes
smaller IR tower (I'm really happy with mine) it's hella cool.

URL for that mini tower?

Dean


Well. I can't seem to find it, I did get mine as a demo from John, He sent
me a GIF of the circuit but i can't find that either.  I don't think that he
decided to put them into production, but i do believe that if you asked him
he might send you the circuit.  i'd like to take mine apart to see how he
free-formed it but i'm scared to.  the whole thing fits into two 2x4 bricks.

if anyone wants the original thing i got for porting NQC to WindowsCE i can
send it to them.  found it and it does include a workaround for using the
standard powered tower with the RS232S (or C?) port.

ask for it off list.

m.


Subject: 
Re: windows ce
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Sun, 24 Feb 2002 05:10:45 GMT
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"Mike Fusion" <mikefusion@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GrrJF7.K90@lugnet.com...

"Steven B. Combs" <stevencombs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GrquFB.3IM@lugnet.com...
"brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a • program
that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control • the
RCX.

Brian,

I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear • what
others say.

Steven

the problem with trying to hack the IR port on a Windows CE machine is • that
the IR is part of the chip architecture. There were some work arounds for
the SIMS but since Motorola pretty much ahs the market on PSPC's you're
probably going to have to be stuck with the MIPS.  there is a version of • NQC
for PSPC's (i have it somewhere) that also has a workaround for adapting • the
IR tower to some of the RS232C (or S?) ports included on them.  you may • want
to see if there is a way to power them through the port with John Barnes
smaller IR tower (I'm really happy with mine) it's hella cool.

URL for that mini tower?

Dean


Subject: 
Re: windows ce
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Tue, 19 Feb 2002 04:31:58 GMT
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"Steven B. Combs" <stevencombs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GrquFB.3IM@lugnet.com...
"brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a • program
that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control • the
RCX.

Brian,

I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear what
others say.

Steven

the problem with trying to hack the IR port on a Windows CE machine is that
the IR is part of the chip architecture. There were some work arounds for
the SIMS but since Motorola pretty much ahs the market on PSPC's you're
probably going to have to be stuck with the MIPS.  there is a version of NQC
for PSPC's (i have it somewhere) that also has a workaround for adapting the
IR tower to some of the RS232C (or S?) ports included on them.  you may want
to see if there is a way to power them through the port with John Barnes
smaller IR tower (I'm really happy with mine) it's hella cool.

my $.02 USD

m.


Subject: 
Re: windows ce
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:36:17 GMT
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"brian peiris" <brianpeiris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Grpsqq.CxI@lugnet.com...
i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a program
that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control the
RCX.

Brian,

I don't believe that this is available, but I will be anxious to hear what
others say.

Steven


Subject: 
windows ce
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:01:38 GMT
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3649 times
  
i have a Cassiopiea e-125 and i was wondering where i could get a program
that utilises the built-in IR port instead of the IR tower to control the RCX.


Subject: 
Re: Bricks in my Pocket (BimP) now available!
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.publish, lugnet.loc.us.in.eva, lugnet.robotics.palm, lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.publish, lugnet.lego, lugnet.edu, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Sun, 10 Feb 2002 04:05:50 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Steven Combs writes:


If you use the Avantgo service, you can create your own channel by using the
following link:

http://www.graphics-plus.com/BimP

Be advised that only 7 subscriptions using Avantgo are available.

Palm Users who wish to subscribe, again there are only 7 subscriptions left,
can add Bimp to their Avantgo Channel using the link below:

http://avantgo.com/mydevice/autoadd.html?title=Bricks%20in%20my%20Pocket&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.graphics-plus.com%2FBimP%2F&max=100&depth=2&images=1&links=0&refresh=always&hours=1&dflags=0&hour=0&quarter=00&s=00

Steven B. Combs, Editor
Bricks in my Pocket (BimP)


Subject: 
Bricks in my Pocket (BimP) now available!
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.publish, lugnet.loc.us.in.eva, lugnet.robotics.palm, lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.publish, lugnet.lego, lugnet.edu, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:25:58 GMT
Highlighted: 
(details)
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In lugnet.general, Chris Busse writes:
I have been playing around lately with creating web pages for use on PalmOS &
Windows CE devices through the free AvantGo (http://www.avantgo.com) service.

I was wondering if there was any interest in the community to develop LEGO
related content for the hand held (PalmOS, CE) devices...

Content for your PocketPC or Palm is now available.  I have been working
hard the last few weeks creating a pocket presence for the Advanced Building
Brick hobbyist.  Using the new Mazingo service, I have created the new
e-journal "Bricks in my Pocket (BimP)."  I could restate everything that is
found in the e-journal here, but the web site says it all.

If you have a PocketPC, you can subscribe to the journal by selecting the
link below:

http://www.mazingo.net/pc/subscribe.php?site_id=311

If you use the Avantgo service, you can create your own channel by using the
following link:

http://www.graphics-plus.com/BimP

Be advised that only 7 subscriptions using Avantgo are available.  Avantgo
wants $1000 to create a channel using their service.  I have created the
site in hopes of one day raising the funds (the site is Charityware after
operating recovery costs - see the site for more info).

If you are not a PDA users and just want to view the content, you can also
use the link provided above.

The site as it stands now has these areas:

* Latest News
* Reviews
* Contests and Events
* Featured Models (Someone you all know and respect will be submitting the
first model!)

Their is also a submission page that displays the details of how you can
make a submission to BimP.

I just made the site live and already have 17 subscribers.  Doesn't sound
like many, but I can tell from this encouraging number that there are many
PDA users who would like have access to fun LEGO content within the palm of
their hand (sure makes stuffy meetings more fun!)

Please be aware that this is not a Lugnet competitor...but rather a
compliment as many of the contributer's items posted here may eventually
wind up at BimP.  Remember BimP will only succeed if I have contributors.

I look forward to your reviews of this exciting new project.

Steven B. Combs, Editor
Bricks in my Pocket (BimP)


Subject: 
Brickremote and lremote
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:17:10 GMT
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Hi,

where can I get brickremote and lremote? The link
http://www.advancenet.net/~kory/pilot published in this newsgroup is
dead.

Thanks, Michael.


Subject: 
Re: New Palm IR Software to remote control your RCX
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:13:47 GMT
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Dean Husby <nntp@akasa.bc.ca> writes:
Dennis Clark wrote:

I'm guessing that using the built in IR port is close to
the signal needed but not quite there. It's a shame LEGO
used such an alien signal for their towers.

It's very close to what is used in standard remote controls,
so it's a natural choice and not that alien.  They couldn't
use the Irda protocol used in Notebooks or handhelds because
it is too complicated for such a small computer as the RCX.

Jürgen

--
Jürgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr>
http://www.loria.fr/~stuber/


Subject: 
Re: New Palm IR Software to remote control your RCX
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics.palm
Date: 
Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:11:16 GMT
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3655 times
  
Dennis Clark wrote:

In lugnet.robotics.palm, Paul Ellams writes:
Just thought people might like to know I have
developed a piece of Palm Software called
Robotic Mover which allows you to remotely
control your RCX.

Unlike the other available software, This
does actually use the built in infrared
port of the Palm Organiser rather than
the Lego IR tower.

Paul,

  Nice work - I installed it on my Visor Platinum, but it acts weird.  The
Forward/back arrows run motor A, the left/right motor B and the buttons to
the right motor C.  The motor 1/2/3 buttons do nothing and the stop button
will not stop a running program.  I didn't find any instructions on usage
anywhere, am I using it incorrectly?  Finally, it doesn't work at all on
the scout, why would that be?  The universal (LEGO) remote works on the Scout
as well, I figured that the Scout and RCX used the same over-ride codes, but
I guess not!

thanks,
DLC

I'm guessing that using the built in IR port is close to the signal needed but
not quite there. It's a shame LEGO used such an alien signal for their towers.
But I really do love having FULL NQC on my iPAQ! At our last show I was able to
fully program (with firmware) 4 bricks and 4 different automatons...

The power of the handheld!

Dean

--
Dean Husby
LUGNET Member #320
TFM's LEGO Workshop - www.akasa.bc.ca/tfm
The Vancouver LEGO Club - www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/



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