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Re: Studless building techniques
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lugnet.robotics.edu
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Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:51:42 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics.edu, Merredith Portsmore wrote:
<snip>

http://www.lego.com/eng/create/technicdesignschool/default.asp

Course: Beams & Connectors
How LEGO TECHNIC elements work together.
Lesson 1: TECHNIC 101
Lesson 2: Stability with LEGO TECHNIC

Course: Gears
TECHNIC on the Move!
Lesson 1: Gearing 101


Merredith Portsmore
Tufts Center for Engineering Educational Outreach
Legoengineering.com

Meredith,

Thanks for posting this.  It is wonderful first shot at some of these building
topics.

I am concerned, however, about the Pythagorean triangles on the Stability link.
The figures show two Pythagorean triangles, namely the 3-4-5 and 6-8-10
triangles.  The figures, unfortunately and arguably incorrectly, show the
lengths as 4m, 5m, and 6m and 7m, 9m, and 11m.  The first course on beams
defines one 'm' to be the distance between the centers of adjacent holes.  As
such, the figure labels of 4m, 5m, and 6m (and the 7-9-11) are misleading.
Agreed, there is discussion in the text of there being six holes but the
distnace is really 5m, but this has all the ingredients to send your typical
12-year-old packing.  They can learn to count starting at zero or compute the
distance by subtracting one from the number of holes; we should work hard to
make sure that the explanations aren't internally inconsistent.  The 3-4-5 works
with the Pythagorean theorem; 4-5-6 does not.  Telling them that the distances
are 4-5-6 in the figure and then doing Pythagoras with 3-4-5 creates, methinks,
more problems than it solves.

(It might be helpful to show that 5-12-13 and 7-24-25 are Pythagorean triangles,
too!)

There are actually two further issues; although more minor, they nonetheless
should be addressed.  First, the 'm' used in the figures is a lower-case 'm',
while in the text it is upper-case 'M'.  Some standardization should be used.
Secondly, if one chooses to use lower-case 'm', one might want to address issues
in conflict with the SI base unit m, which is meters.

Since we are working with Lego, I might suggest using 'stud' as a unit,
eventhough it is not part of the SI lexicon, as far as I know!  My understanding
of 'stud' as a unit of measure in the Lego context is that it is equivalent to
the 'module' defined on your pages.

Again, thank you for your postings on technic building techniques.  I am sure
that they are of value to many of us who are trying to build better technic
structures.  I just want to make sure that the newbies that read this kind of
thing are getting a straight scoop.  We need to make sure we get the details
right.

Thanks,
Rafe


Subject: 
Re: Studless building techniques
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lugnet.robotics.edu
Date: 
Wed, 4 Oct 2006 12:45:01 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Mark Haye wrote:
I am working with a couple FLL teams, building with the NXT.
I am having a little trouble coaching them on studless building
techniques, as it is still a bit of a new concept to me as well.
I'm sure I've seen presentations or how-to's on the subject
posted to LUGNET somewhere, perhaps as part of BrickFest
or somesuch, but I have so far failed to locate any.
If you know of some resources in this area, please post a link.
Thanks.

Mark Haye
Professional programmer.  Closed source.  Do not attempt.

There are some good basics at the LEGO Technic Design School.  They've been
slowly adding more

http://www.lego.com/eng/create/technicdesignschool/default.asp

Course: Beams & Connectors
How LEGO TECHNIC elements work together.
Lesson 1: TECHNIC 101
Lesson 2: Stability with LEGO TECHNIC

Course: Gears
TECHNIC on the Move!
Lesson 1: Gearing 101


Merredith Portsmore
Tufts Center for Engineering Educational Outreach
Legoengineering.com


Subject: 
Studless building techniques
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lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics.nxt, lugnet.robotics.edu
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lugnet.robotics.edu
Date: 
Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:05:20 GMT
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I am working with a couple FLL teams, building with the NXT.
I am having a little trouble coaching them on studless building
techniques, as it is still a bit of a new concept to me as well.
I'm sure I've seen presentations or how-to's on the subject
posted to LUGNET somewhere, perhaps as part of BrickFest
or somesuch, but I have so far failed to locate any.
If you know of some resources in this area, please post a link.
Thanks.

Mark Haye
Professional programmer.  Closed source.  Do not attempt.


Subject: 
Newbie needs Help
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lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.edu, lugnet.robotics.rcx.robolab
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:22:15 GMT
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Hi, I am a newbie and would appreciate some help. My 11 year old has just
joined his school robotics club. He will be using set 9794 (Mindstorms for
School with ROBOLAB 2.5.4) and has to prepare a robot for a Tug-of-War
competition (based on FLL rules) in just 2 weeks time. This is really short
notice! I have
downloaded various pdf files from the net (artoflego, FLL guides etc.) as
well as buying a digital copy of the Ferraris' book. I am at a loss as to
how to help him beyond attempting to digest all this downloaded material as
fast as I can. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Raj.


Subject: 
FIRST LEGO League video
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lugnet.robotics.edu
Date: 
Wed, 31 May 2006 05:36:27 GMT
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Greetings All,

Here is a video of a FLL team that I coached:

http://homepage.mac.com/aklego/iMovieTheater29.html

The team was quite good and made it to the the World Festival in Atlanta last
month.  In the five months leading up to the festivle, they were able to improve
their robot to the point where they could often get a perfect score.
Unfortunatly, the robot was camra shy and I was never able to capture a perfect
run.  Anyway, hope you enjoy it.

Tom



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