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Re: Brick Journal Calendar
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
I originally thought about that, but there are some countries that are larger
than others that have provinces and states. I really want some country icons,
and I might do some hacking to see if it's possible.

Well, as someone living in the second largest country in the world I would have
no problem seeing all my compatriots events listed as being in Canada. The flags
(or whatever) would be a nice addition but for now it would improve the utility
without any hacks.

BTW, got my first print issue of Brick Journal this week and I will be showing
it off to my LUGmates tomorrow. The quality is fantastic.


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I originally thought about that, but there are some countries that are larger
than others that have provinces and states. I really want some country icons,
and I might do some hacking to see if it's possible.

Joe

Joe,  Do a search for ISO 3166 -- those are the ISO-established 2-digit country
codes.


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Re: Brick Journal Calendar
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Ted Godwin wrote:
In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
Okay, so what color scheme do you want - by type of event or country? Either
way, it will take a little time.

If I may venture a suggestion: Make the colour scheme about the type of event
and shorten the "location" field to the two-letter country code (ie: us, ca, uk,
etc). The full address can be in the description field but it would not only
make it a lot easier to read but reduce the amount of space each listing takes
up on the calendar.

I originally thought about that, but there are some countries that are larger
than others that have provinces and states. I really want some country icons,
and I might do some hacking to see if it's possible.

Joe


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Re: Brick Journal Calendar
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
Okay, so what color scheme do you want - by type of event or country? Either
way, it will take a little time.

If I may venture a suggestion: Make the colour scheme about the type of event
and shorten the "location" field to the two-letter country code (ie: us, ca, uk,
etc). The full address can be in the description field but it would not only
make it a lot easier to read but reduce the amount of space each listing takes
up on the calendar.


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Re: Brick Journal Calendar
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
Joe and Crew,

Not sure who is personally responsible for the Brick Journal Calendar
http://brickjournal-space.near-time.net/calendar/view_month?date=2008-06-01
so I will post here, and hopefully it will get into the right hands.

I manage the calendar:-).


And before I get into this, let me first start of with a thank you for having a
central "Calendar of Events". It is a wonderful idea, useful for fans, and more
than likely a "chore" for someone to keep this updated.


It's all three:-)

I realize that "beggars should not be choosers"... but I am hoping you will
consider this idea, since all this work goes into this resource, I would like to
see it be a bit more user friendly.

Currently many days are filled with long running events or museum displays, and
that makes finding Fest dates or other AFOL centric events difficult.  Would it
be possible to colour code the listings, by type of event (for example, Fests in
red, museum shows in blue), or by geographical area, (by country perhaps)?

I had pushed for that functionality for me last year, and found out that the
calendar app wasn't that advanced at all..which really wasn't the answer I
wanted.

I really wanted country icons, but there was no provision for them.

Since you asked me this, though, I went back to the calendar and did some
hacking and found that I can change colors on the headline, so I can work this
out, at least.

If the font colours could be changed so it would be easier to read and sort
through it of course, would be way faster to skim thru the calendar and find
the particular events someone is interested in.


Okay, so what color scheme do you want - by type of event or country? Either
way, it will take a little time.


Joe

Thanks for your time,
Janey "Red Brick"


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Brick Journal Calendar
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Joe and Crew,

Not sure who is personally responsible for the Brick Journal Calendar
http://brickjournal-space.near-time.net/calendar/view_month?date=2008-06-01
so I will post here, and hopefully it will get into the right hands.

And before I get into this, let me first start of with a thank you for having a
central "Calendar of Events". It is a wonderful idea, useful for fans, and more
than likely a "chore" for someone to keep this updated.

I realize that "beggars should not be choosers"... but I am hoping you will
consider this idea, since all this work goes into this resource, I would like to
see it be a bit more user friendly.

Currently many days are filled with long running events or museum displays, and
that makes finding Fest dates or other AFOL centric events difficult.  Would it
be possible to colour code the listings, by type of event (for example, Fests in
red, museum shows in blue), or by geographical area, (by country perhaps)?

If the font colours could be changed so it would be easier to read and sort
through it of course, would be way faster to skim thru the calendar and find
the particular events someone is interested in.

Thanks for your time,
Janey "Red Brick"


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Re: BrickJournal Issue 1, Volume 2 is available for download!
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Dave Sterling wrote:

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Joe:

One other question for you.  Is there a plan to do a Vol. 1 Issues 6,7,8,9 in a
compendium?  I know the Vol. 1 and 2 compendiums covering issues 1-5 are up, but
I was just wondering if issues 6-9 are in the works.

Oh, and we did a train show last weekend in La Crosse with GMLTC and TCLTC.  I
had my print copy of BrickJournal on display and showed as many attendees as
possible.  Hopefully this works into a few more paid subscriptions.  It's a
beautiful first issue and I look forward to many, many more.

Thanks,
Dave
¬
There will be more compendiums, and I think there will be a third and fourth -
mainly because the issues got so big.

Thanks for the help! And Issue 2 is looking good!

Joe


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Re: BrickJournal Issue 1, Volume 2 is available for download!
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Jordan Bradford wrote:
Joe, I just sent you an email, but I'd also like to publicly congratulate you on
getting BrickJournal to print.

I'm thinking of trying to convince my local library to subscribe. I'm sure there
are plenty of kids (and adults) who would love to read the magazine. What should
I tell them?

That's a good question - and a good idea! Going to the libraries has been
something that has been suggested from a few people.

I just called up a local library (out of curiosity) about this and will be
contacted later today as to how a magazine would be submitted for consideration.
I didn't think it would be a very easy procedure, and I guess I will find out.

To answer your question, though, I would say that BrickJournal is a magazine
that is suited for all ages who are interested all the aspects of the LEGO
hobby, from building to robotics to events. It's an introduction and invitation
to the hobby and the creative people behind it.

Then you show them an issue:-).

Joe

PS. Thanks for the compliments!

Joe:

One other question for you.  Is there a plan to do a Vol. 1 Issues 6,7,8,9 in a
compendium?  I know the Vol. 1 and 2 compendiums covering issues 1-5 are up, but
I was just wondering if issues 6-9 are in the works.

Oh, and we did a train show last weekend in La Crosse with GMLTC and TCLTC.  I
had my print copy of BrickJournal on display and showed as many attendees as
possible.  Hopefully this works into a few more paid subscriptions.  It's a
beautiful first issue and I look forward to many, many more.

Thanks,
Dave


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Re: BrickJournal Issue 1, Volume 2 is available for download!
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Jordan Bradford wrote:
Joe, I just sent you an email, but I'd also like to publicly congratulate you on
getting BrickJournal to print.

I'm thinking of trying to convince my local library to subscribe. I'm sure there
are plenty of kids (and adults) who would love to read the magazine. What should
I tell them?

That's a good question - and a good idea! Going to the libraries has been
something that has been suggested from a few people.

I just called up a local library (out of curiosity) about this and will be
contacted later today as to how a magazine would be submitted for consideration.
I didn't think it would be a very easy procedure, and I guess I will find out.

To answer your question, though, I would say that BrickJournal is a magazine
that is suited for all ages who are interested all the aspects of the LEGO
hobby, from building to robotics to events. It's an introduction and invitation
to the hobby and the creative people behind it.

Then you show them an issue:-).

Joe

PS. Thanks for the compliments!


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Re: BrickJournal Issue 1, Volume 2 is available for download!
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Jordan Bradford wrote:
Joe, I just sent you an email, but I'd also like to publicly congratulate you on
getting BrickJournal to print.

I'm thinking of trying to convince my local library to subscribe. I'm sure there
are plenty of kids (and adults) who would love to read the magazine. What should
I tell them?

Jordan,

I think that is a really good idea. I have been trying to get Joe to go after
that market. I am sure there are lists of School Librarians, etc.

Another thing is that the local club could pay for the subscription or the
PTA/PTO.

There are literally thousands of school libraries as well as of course public
ones. Every middle school library should have a subscription. And since it is a
completely independent magazine and the editorial content is not under the
purview of TLG, there is no worry about being called some kind of advertising
scheme objections.
Tommy Armstrong

The BrickEngraver


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Re: BrickJournal Issue 1, Volume 2 is available for download!
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Joe, I just sent you an email, but I'd also like to publicly congratulate you on
getting BrickJournal to print.

I'm thinking of trying to convince my local library to subscribe. I'm sure there
are plenty of kids (and adults) who would love to read the magazine. What should
I tell them?


Subject: 
Re: BrickJournal Issue 1, Volume 2 is available for download!
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Scott Wardlaw wrote:
   I just received my printed issue of BrickJournal today, and I must say how much more I have enjoyed reading it and turning real pages than just scroling my mouse through the digital version!


Thanks! It is a slightly different game getting things to print - everything now is done three months ahead of schedule instead of the night before:-)!

And having a real mag is a very different feeling.

   Since RailBricks has come out, there are noticably fewer pages on trains though. Joe, please don’t forget about the train enthusiasts (and the article I asked for)!


Hm. I assumed that RB would be the place where the train enthusiasts go, and its voice is more specialized that the Journal’s. It’s also not my intention to step on any toes (at least not intentionally), so I haven’t pressed hard for train related materials since RB started up.

However, since you bring it up, I will look into putting train-related materials. I will keep up with the Power Functions train information as much as possible, but that is something I don’t see any info becoming public until the fall at the earliest. The next issue is being worked on right now (and it’s pretty neat!) so there may not be an article, but I will try.

As for your article idea...I have to figure who to contact!!!

   If you haven’t already purchased one, or bought a subscription, I highly recommend it. Every page is printed on high quality, high gloss paper. It is almost as thick as a Popular Mechanics, and I have spent almost two hours looking through it and reading the articles. There’s even a little bit about the upcoming Indiana Jones and Batman video games!

There’s more stuff coming too:-) - things just get more interesting here:-)!

  
Thanks again to all who help support BrickJournal, Scott

Yes - thanks to everyone!

Joe Meno (who is wondering where all the newsstand copies are, as I can’t seem to find them in my town!)


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I just received my printed issue of BrickJournal today, and I must say how much more I have enjoyed reading it and turning real pages than just scroling my mouse through the digital version!

Since RailBricks has come out, there are noticably fewer pages on trains though. Joe, please don’t forget about the train enthusiasts (and the article I asked for)!

If you haven’t already purchased one, or bought a subscription, I highly recommend it. Every page is printed on high quality, high gloss paper. It is almost as thick as a Popular Mechanics, and I have spent almost two hours looking through it and reading the articles. There’s even a little bit about the upcoming Indiana Jones and Batman video games!

Thanks again to all who help support BrickJournal, Scott


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Hi all,

The next digital issue of BrickJournal (renumbered to reflect going to print) is available for purchase ($3.95) here.
Articles include:

Event reports from Northwest Brickcon
Event report from LEGO World
Spotlight on Stephan Sander
Spotlight on the Omicron Weekend
Interview with Nathan Sawaya

and more!

BrickJournal’s first print edition will be hitting bookshelves and US LEGO stores next week! Many thanks to everyone who contributed to get this mag off the ground!

Joe Meno
Editor, BrickJournal


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Re: One pile o' announcements from BrickJournal
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Kevin Salm wrote:

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   Yes, many thanks to all who have contributed and worked on BrickJournal since before day one.

The group subscription sounds great. What a neat offering.

My question -- is there the possibility for more than one printing run of any edition of BrickJournal? I am just wondering how long each volume will be available. Should people stock up now in case there is never another print run in the future?


There’s always a possibility, but it will take a bit before another printing run is done. If there is enough immediate demand, it can happen. With the quantity ordered by the newsstand distributor, I suspect that there will be a small number (1 or 2) at each bookstore.

Should people stock up with multiple copies? I’m not so sure about that. Should you get your personal copy? By all means:-).

For those in the New England area, there is another distributor that has ordered for smaller newsstands, so you guys are in a better position to get an issue.

   As far as printed version of the back issues -- I’m slightly confused by the edition-volume labels. It sure would be easier if they were just numbered 001, 002, 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 101, 102, etc. (publishers tech-speak is hard for us dumb people to understand).

But I take the statement to mean all previous digital versions will eventually be printed, correct ?? Will the back issues be a single-copy printed or multiple issue per binding?? Not that it matters, just want to know what to plan for.


You got it. The back issues will be available in compilations. The first one (which I am working on now) has issues 1-3. compilations were decided on because they can be placed in bookstores, where the books have a much longer shelf life than a quarterly.

Renumbering made sense because of the media change, and the new exposure BrickJournal now will have - if the issue had kept previous numbering, there would have been questions about the previous issues. I probably will not refer to volumes after this issue is released.

Joe


   Kevin Salm
LUCNY


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Re: One pile o' announcements from BrickJournal
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:

   Group Rates
From Twomorrows (BrickJournal’s Publisher)

BrickJournal #1 is on press now, and will be shipping February 27, so expect to receive it in early March! (We’ll also send you a link to the free Digital Edition of the issue at the end of the month, to tide you over while you’re waiting for your printed copy to arrive.)

In the meantime, in an effort to make subscribing to BrickJournal more affordable for everyone (particularly those outside the US), we’re now offering a “BRICK O’ JOURNALS” which is a bulk order of 25 copies of the first print issue at 40% off cover price, plus shipping. So whether you’re looking to resell them to raise funds for your LEGO Club (or yourself), or want to combine your order with friends’ to save money off the single issue and subscription prices, it’s a great way for organizations and individuals to save on the ultimate magazine for LEGO enthusiasts. (NOTE: Each “brick” contains 25 copies of the same issue; no mixing of issues or changing of quantities.)

So, if you’d like to pool your order with others and order the “Brick O’ Journals”, go here!

If this route saves you money, we’ll be happy to issue you a refund for your original subscription order.

Individual orders should be taken through Twomorrows or through 1001bricks if you are not in the US.

Compilation Books to be Published
Twomorrows will be printing compilation books of BrickJournal back issues, starting with a book of Issues 1-3. There will be more information in the magazine, but I thought I’d tell ya:-)

Gee, I think that’s it - but more stuff is on the way!

Many thanks to all the people who have contributed and helped out with getting the mag off the ground and taking it to a new level!


Later,


Joe Meno
Editor, BrickJournal


Yes, many thanks to all who have contributed and worked on BrickJournal since before day one.

The group subscription sounds great. What a neat offering.

My question -- is there the possibility for more than one printing run of any edition of BrickJournal? I am just wondering how long each volume will be available. Should people stock up now in case there is never another print run in the future?

As far as printed version of the back issues -- I’m slightly confused by the edition-volume labels. It sure would be easier if they were just numbered 001, 002, 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 101, 102, etc. (publishers tech-speak is hard for us dumb people to understand).

But I take the statement to mean all previous digital versions will eventually be printed, correct ?? Will the back issues be a single-copy printed or multiple issue per binding?? Not that it matters, just want to know what to plan for.

Kevin Salm
LUCNY


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Re: One pile o' announcements from BrickJournal
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:

(snip)

Group Rates
From Twomorrows
   (BrickJournal’s Publisher)

BrickJournal #1 is on press now, and will be shipping February 27, so expect to receive it in early March! (We’ll also send you a link to the free Digital Edition of the issue at the end of the month, to tide you over while you’re waiting for your printed copy to arrive.)


To clarify, since I took this out of context:

Subscribers get a free digital edition of BrickJournal. My apologies for this miscommunication.

Joe


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Hi all,

BrickJournal Issue 1, Volume 2 is being printed right now, and is on target for shipping the last week of this month. There’s been a lot that has gone on during the preparation time, so here’s a release of sorts:

A Chat with Jørgen Vig Knudstorp

I was able to have a video chat with the CEO of the LEGO group last year. Through some incredibly goofy technical difficulties, this did not make it online until now. You can see this 25 minute video at the BrickJournal website, or you can go here.

International Sales
For those overseas from the US who have voiced concerns about not being able to order an issue of BrickJournal because of the high shipping cost, we have gotten a Bricklink dealer to sell the magazine. 1001bricks is taking individual orders for BrickJournal internationally and has a lower shipping rate.

BrickJournal Issue 1 to be sold in Bookstands and US LEGO stores
BrickJournal was ordered in limited numbers by Ingram Distribution, which handles the majority of newsstands in the US, and by the LEGO Group for sale in the US LEGO stores. Diamond Comic Distributors also ordered copies for some comic shops.

The publisher is working on European distribution channels, but as of this time, they are unavailable. We hope to have something by the second issue.

Group Rates
From Twomorrows (BrickJournal’s Publisher)

BrickJournal #1 is on press now, and will be shipping February 27, so expect to receive it in early March! (We’ll also send you a link to the free Digital Edition of the issue at the end of the month, to tide you over while you’re waiting for your printed copy to arrive.)

In the meantime, in an effort to make subscribing to BrickJournal more affordable for everyone (particularly those outside the US), we’re now offering a “BRICK O’ JOURNALS” which is a bulk order of 25 copies of the first print issue at 40% off cover price, plus shipping. So whether you’re looking to resell them to raise funds for your LEGO Club (or yourself), or want to combine your order with friends’ to save money off the single issue and subscription prices, it’s a great way for organizations and individuals to save on the ultimate magazine for LEGO enthusiasts. (NOTE: Each “brick” contains 25 copies of the same issue; no mixing of issues or changing of quantities.)

So, if you’d like to pool your order with others and order the “Brick O’ Journals”, go here!

If this route saves you money, we’ll be happy to issue you a refund for your original subscription order.

Individual orders should be taken through Twomorrows or through 1001bricks if you are not in the US.

Compilation Books to be Published
Twomorrows will be printing compilation books of BrickJournal back issues, starting with a book of Issues 1-3. There will be more information in the magazine, but I thought I’d tell ya:-)

Gee, I think that’s it - but more stuff is on the way!

Many thanks to all the people who have contributed and helped out with getting the mag off the ground and taking it to a new level!


Later,


Joe Meno
Editor, BrickJournal


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Re: Getting BrickJournal
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
   Hi all,

Happy New Year1

BrickJournal is heading to print and will be available at newsstands that get delivery from Ingram Distribution. This is the time to notify your newsstands or bookstores to order an issue. If you are international, you may be able to get BrickJournal (especially if it’s serviced by Ingram).

BrickJournal is also distributed by Diamond Comics Distribution, so if you buy books from a comic store, you can may be able to pick up a copy there.

Later,

Joe

An update on the TwoMorrows website...

As of 8:37 am CST the site is back up and is taking orders. I just ordered my subscription and paid through PayPal. You can also download Issue 9 for free from the TwoMorrows site. You just have to create an account, add it to your cart, and check out. The issue is free.

-Dave


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Re: Getting BrickJournal
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Roy Gal wrote:
   In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
   In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Dave Sterling wrote:
   In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:

(snip)

   Joe:

The TwoMorrows website is not currently working. Is there any way to order a mail subscription other than through their site?

Thanks, Dave

You can send payment to

TwoMorrows Publishing
10407 Bedfordtown Drive
Raleigh, NC 27614 USA

Subscriptions are:
$32 US postpaid by media mail
$42 US First Class
$50 Canadian
$66 Surface International
$78 Airmail International

I sent a note to TwoMorrows about the website, although I suspect that they have gotten a few notes already.

Thanks,
Joe


Joe,

You probably know but the site (twomorrows.com) is still down. I have to say it doesn’t give one much faith in the publisher to have the site unavailable for days. I would like to order BrickJournal but I don’t just want to send a check into the unknown. Can you (or TwoMorrows) provide us with an updated status? They were able to email us to request that we order the Journal, so they should have our info if we downloaded an earlier issue.

Thanks and good luck with the magazine,

Roy

I agree with this sentiment. I even emailed John and TwoMorrows a couple days ago and have not got a response. I have a hard time sending them my money when they don’t even respond to emails.

-Dave



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