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Re: Elian Gonzales
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Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:33:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> The "family" was forcibly detaining Elian against court orders from being
> reunited with his father. Why they aren't in jail is beyond me.
There appear to be conflicting court orders in effect, as there is also a
ruling in effect that Elian can apply for asylum in his own right and that the
guardianship is valid. Or that's my understanding.
> > I feel that these actions were excessive, unnecessary, and cruel. The
> > President and Janet Reno (neither one famous for their honesty)
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> Find me a (living) politician who is! :-)
Andre Marrou. John Bergland. Ron Paul. Just to name 3...
I find the sight of Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco, on TV with a quivering lip
emoting about how concerned she is about Elian and the "rule of law" to be the
most ludicrous thing I've seen so far this century. Her and her boss have no
respect for the rule of law except when convenient for their own ends.
> This poor kid has been a political (and semi-religious) football. He is with
> his father, where he should be,
Is a father who either sincerely wishes, or is under duress strong enough to
cause him to appear that he sincerely wishes, to return his child to a
communist police state necessarily fit to have custody? I would go with no. Why
do the wishes of the mother no longer carry any weight?
> though we are left with the self-serving
> political grandstanding from all sides.
Now THAT is true. Hilarious how both demopublicans are trying to claim that
they never supported the current administration's actions.
++Lar
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| (...) All murderous issues aside, isn't her "quivering lip" due to her Parkinson's as opposed to some affected emotionalism? (...) This seems to presume that parents in a communist state must either be decietful or under duress to wish to remain in (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The legal rulings do get confusing, don't they? My understanding is that the ruling to hand over the child was valid and no temporary restraining order was in effect (or perhaps in effect by a sufficiently high enough court). (...) Now Larry, (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Either that or having him stay in a "democratic" police state. Kya - who has nothing really to add to this conversation other than the opinion that the US is looking more and more like a police state (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The "family" was forcibly detaining Elian against court orders from being reunited with his father. Why they aren't in jail is beyond me. (...) Find me a (living) politician who is! :-) (...) Nope. They were just continually stalling. But (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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