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Re: Next BayLUG Get-Together in August 1999
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In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, Michael Hopkins writes:
In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf.sj, David K. Z. Harris writes:
Well, we have two proposed dates, both on Saturday:

       August 14, or August 7.

I know that my preference would be the 7th. I could probably go the 14th,
though if it was early enough, ie, pre-noon. I have plans for the evening of
the 14th.

Of course, I'm just excited to be able to actually go to one this time. The • day
will just determine whether I can bring my entire Ninja Superfortress or not.

Ooo superfortress :-)

A couple of people have expressed their desires for earlier times. IIRC the
last meeting started at 10am. Can the Fukaya Room be booked as early as say
9am? I know it might seem like a long day, but if we quit at 3 (maybe 4 at the
latest) might it be better? BTW, no one has to stay for the whole thing.

That Fukaya room is really good. We've got a door on the outside wall by the
parking lot for walk-ins, and it's a busy library. I'm not sure of anything
that good in Castro Valley or San Leandro, but I'll still look around. San
Leandro's Community Library might have a room.

What about considering some toy stores? Some toy store managers/owners might
do it to ring up an extra sale or two. I think Castro Valley's "Village Toys"
store is too small but I'll check that too.

-Tom McD.


Subject: 
Re: Next BayLUG Get-Together in August 1999
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In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf.sj, David K. Z. Harris writes:
Well, we have two proposed dates, both on Saturday:

       August 14, or August 7.

I know that my preference would be the 7th. I could probably go the 14th,
though if it was early enough, ie, pre-noon. I have plans for the evening of
the 14th.

Of course, I'm just excited to be able to actually go to one this time. The day
will just determine whether I can bring my entire Ninja Superfortress or not.

-Mich


Subject: 
Re: Next BayLUG Get-Together in August 1999
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In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, David K. Z. Harris writes:
Well, we have two proposed dates, both on Saturday:

       August 14, or August 7.

I can make either date . Who wants to choose?)

So far I've heard nothing against August 14. I'm still lobbying for it. But
I'm always saying things. I'd like to hear from more folks.

I've seen a couple requests for returning to Fremont, if the
Fukaya Room at the main library is available. (I haven't checked,
but I will look for the contact info.)

I don't know how far in advance rooms get typically booked there. But I have
nothing against meeting there in August and in November too.

Are there any other venues to consider? Does anyone in another
city want to take a crack at planning the event in a city closer
to their home? :-)

Just to see if there's something else to pick from, I'll look into finding a
room in Castro Valley. Should we attempt to meet in the Tri-Valley sometime?
Pleasanton maybe?

If the November meeting were to be held
in Fremont, would that change folks amind about where we should
meet in August?

If I might spin the question another way for folks who live north of SF and
north of Oakland (Bill Katz, David Simmons, etc): where would you propose a
meeting?

When we pick the date, and have a room set up, I'll post that
info on the BayLUG home page, and the BayInsider page. If we'll
be in Fremont, I'll also alert our contact at The Argus, to see
if we can get some pre-meeting press. :-)

Good. Are there any other sorts of free public service venues that anyone
knows about? I called Radio Disney AM1310 and we can get a public service
announcement aired, and I'll write copy for it if no one objects (I used to
make radio commercials for a living).

Would anyone object if I wrote up a press release that we could send out if
needed? Wherever we meet, should we consider sending releases to any of the
area's schools? If more than a coupla folks think a press release is a good
idea, send me quotes from yourselves that I can use in it. Don't make them too
flowery - just say in one or two sentences why you like the club: what you put
in, get out, why you show up, etc. You don't have to be a member to submit a
quote, you just have to have been to one. If I get too many I might have to
edit or not include some, but I'd rather have more than enough. Also you could
send more than one set of sentences. Deadline is 7/25. Send those quotes to
the spam-inhibited radiotitan@yaNOSPAMhoo.com with a subject of "Press Release
Quote".

I'll presume that we want a 2-hour members-only session for show
and tell plus trading and selling, and 'public' portion after that.
I've got a couple things to discuss with the membership. Does anyone
else have any agenda items for the August meeting?

Two hours is good, and I'd like some feedback about our website and how folks
feel it should/n't look and behave. I'll try and remember to bring a tape
recorder rather than write notes. I don't want to take tons of time away from
trading etc., but our site is an effective full-time communicator in
expressing the purposes and personality of the club so it shouldn't be
overlooked.

-Tom McD.


Subject: 
Next BayLUG Get-Together in August 1999
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  Well, we have two proposed dates, both on Saturday:

        August 14, or August 7.

  I can make either date . Who wants to choose?)

  I've seen a couple requests for returning to Fremont, if the
Fukaya Room at the main library is available. (I haven't checked,
but I will look for the contact info.)

  Are there any other venues to consider? Does anyone in another
city want to take a crack at planning the event in a city closer
to their home? :-)

  If the room in Fremont is available, should we try to reserve
it now, or wait (how long) for discussion?

  I'd prefer the November meeting to be in Fremont, since I want
to drag my train tables to the meeting. (I'd rather not have to
take them on the freeway on their first adventure in the back of
the pickup truck! ;-)  If the November meeting were to be held
in Fremont, would that change folks amind about where we should
meet in August?

  When we pick the date, and have a room set up, I'll post that
info on the BayLUG home page, and the BayInsider page. If we'll
be in Fremont, I'll also alert our contact at The Argus, to see
if we can get some pre-meeting press. :-)

  I'll presume that we want a 2-hour members-only session for show
and tell plus trading and selling, and 'public' portion after that.
I've got a couple things to discuss with the membership. Does anyone
else have any agenda items for the August meeting?

        -Z-    http://baylug.org/zonker/ZRondDom.html


Subject: 
Next GTG date (was Re: BayLUG now on KTVU BayInsider website)
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I'd like to change my vote to Aug 14 cuz there stands a chance I might be away
that weekend. I know Mark Benz has said that the 14th was better for him too.
Is the Fukaya Room still open on that date?

-Tom McD.

In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, David Simmons writes:
  Hopefully, this will help us generate a better turnout at our next
get-together. The date August 7 has been suggested...anyone else have
a date to suggest? :-)

     -Z-

I would REALLY love to have the date of August be the one we stick with!
I'll be going back to class a few weeks after that!

Dave


Subject: 
Re: BayLUG now on KTVU BayInsider website
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  Hopefully, this will help us generate a better turnout at our next
get-together. The date August 7 has been suggested...anyone else have
a date to suggest? :-)

     -Z-

I would REALLY love to have the date of August be the one we stick with!
I'll be going back to class a few weeks after that!

Dave


Subject: 
BayLUG now on KTVU BayInsider website
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  Well, it took a bit of work, but we have a couple of basic pages
on http://people.bayinsider.com/baylug, but I can't load it with
Internet exploder 5.x (however, Netscape works fine). Let me know
what you think of the pages.

  So, I can't explain the failure, since I'm using really basic HTML.
I'll try to troubleshoot this, but any ideas or leads would be welcomed.

  Hopefully, this will help us generate a better turnout at our next
get-together. The date August 7 has been suggested...anyone else have
a date to suggest? :-)

     -Z-


Subject: 
Grab bags at LEGOFest
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  Well, the grab bags have come together, and I hope people like them!  This
time the $10 bag features about $18-worth of LEGO -- about a 45% discount off
MSRP!  In addition, these bags will have:

    -- 4 or 5 minifigs per bag,
    -- green, tan, grey, dark grey, and orange pieces,
    -- pieces from Castle, Space, Adventurers, Wild West, and ..
    -- ... a little bit of Star Wars too!

I hope people like them.

  I have just a couple of unclaimed ones, so first-come-first-served on
Saturday for the remaining bags!

  And as always, these are all new pieces from sets I bought on discount.  I
haven't cherry-picked the pieces, and I'm not making any money off of this.
Just doing it for the fun and for the LEGOFest!

  See you on Saturday!

--Raymond Flournoy
======================================================================
flournoy@cs.stanford.edu       "Because, of course, a man with an
Computer Science Dept.          obsession is a man who has very little
Stanford University, CA         sales-resistance."      -- C. S. Lewis


Subject: 
Re: Trains at "Quarterly" Meeting?
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  I'll be bringing a bunch of track, and a few switch/points, as
well as a few engines and rolling stock. Others are welcome (and
encouraged ;-) to bring their cars to run as well!

  In addition, I'm planning to bring a VHS video player, and show
the videotape I took at the LEGOLAND Carlsbad Grand Opening, and
at the LEGOfest in Carlsbad that same night, plus a couple other
LEGO-related tapes. (Again, other folks are encouraged to bring
any LEGO-related VHS tapes that they want to show, and we'll just
rotate the tapes through the player.

  We're hoping to have finalized the club membership plans by the
time we meet next weekend, so folks can sign up at the gathering.
If you are interested in becoming a member, please get your name
to Russell Clark ("russellc" at baylug.org) soon, so he can make
a name badge for you and bring it to the meeting.

    I look forward to seeing folks at the get-together. :-)

        -Z-     (http://baylug.org)  (http://baylug.org/zonker)


Subject: 
Re: BayLUG Get-together in May!
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In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, David K. Z. Harris writes:
We've got 5 weeks to plan this...does anyone else have time to
put this together? (Anyone want to work on the task of Grab Bags? ;-)

Hello!

  I am beginning the planning for the grab bags, and so I need to get a good
count of how many to make.  People seemed to like the $10 bags last time, so
I'll stick with those.  Please email if you would like any bags, and how many
you want.  Please only email if you are serious, because I need to take the
responses as commitments to buy!

  Because of the logistics of buying the pieces and putting the bags together,
I need to know ASAP, so please email today if you're interested!

--Raymond Flournoy
======================================================================
flournoy@cs.stanford.edu       "Because, of course, a man with an
Computer Science Dept.          obsession is a man who has very little
Stanford University, CA         sales-resistance."      -- C. S. Lewis


Subject: 
Re: BayLUG Get-together in May!
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In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, Raymond Flournoy writes:
In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, Tom McDonald writes:
In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, David K. Z. Harris writes:

We've got 5 weeks to plan this...does anyone else have time to
put this together? (Anyone want to work on the task of Grab Bags? ;-)

I'd do it, but somehow I never can find the sales and really cool sets like
some people can.

Well, I may regret saying this, but since I've been the grab bag guy for the
last two meetings, I'll go ahead and volunteer again.

I haven't had a chance to build up a good reserve of clearance stuff since
the last meeting, so if anyone has any clearance stuff that they'd like to • sell
to the grab bag effort, be sure to contact me!

I do have to thank Raymond for the great job he did last time. I like what he
selected sight unseen even though I was not at the last meeting. While I like
the idea of Grab Bags, I don't want this to be a burden to anyone either.

I don't have any ideas for this but maybe collectively we could think of
something. Could there be a way to distribute pieces the day of the event
other than by grab bags? I still like the idea though of getting pieces sight
unseen to promote conversation and trading.

I'm not sure if there is a better way. It's just that it would seem kinda cool
to be able to just put to separate pieces into a few boxes the day of event as
people bring in their Grab Bag sets, and then pass the pieces back out randomly
somehow.

Any thoughts?

-Tom McD.


Subject: 
Re: BayLUG Get-together in May!
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In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, Tom McDonald writes:
In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, David K. Z. Harris writes:

We've got 5 weeks to plan this...does anyone else have time to
put this together? (Anyone want to work on the task of Grab Bags? ;-)

I'd do it, but somehow I never can find the sales and really cool sets like
some people can.

  Well, I may regret saying this, but since I've been the grab bag guy for the
last two meetings, I'll go ahead and volunteer again.

  I haven't had a chance to build up a good reserve of clearance stuff since
the last meeting, so if anyone has any clearance stuff that they'd like to sell
to the grab bag effort, be sure to contact me!

--Raymond Flournoy
======================================================================
flournoy@cs.stanford.edu       "Because, of course, a man with an
Computer Science Dept.          obsession is a man who has very little
Stanford University, CA         sales-resistance."      -- C. S. Lewis


Subject: 
Re: BayLUG Get-together in May!
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In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, David K. Z. Harris writes:
Mark Benz,  Well done! Thanks for taking the lead on this! :-)
    (Mark's message is appended to the end of this message.)

So, the gauntlet has been thrown down. We have a large meeting
room at the Fremont Public Library (Stevenson Blvd. just east of
Paseo Padre Parkway; 2 short blocks from BART Fremont station!).
The date is Saturday, 5/22/99, from 11:30a-4:30p. We just need
to supply the LEGOs, and show up. :-)

Great. I plan on being there.

Since Mark is busy with work, I'm offering to be the coordinator
for this first quarterly meeting of BayLUG. Since I live in Fremont,
I'm planning to bring lots of train stuff. Do folks want to stick
to a town/train theme, with a general show & tell, or do we want
to open it up to anything folks want to bring?

Make it general, please. More and different stuff can be there that way.

We've got 5 weeks to plan this...does anyone else have time to
put this together? (Anyone want to work on the task of Grab Bags? ;-)

I'd do it, but somehow I never can find the sales and really cool sets like
some people can.

<snip>
          -Z-       http://baylug.org
______________________________________________
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:39:27 -0700
From: Mark Benz <mbenz@us.oracle.com>
To: zonkerh@corp.webtv.net
Subject: Lego Get Together, I GOT A ROOM!

Hi Zonker,
I have booked the Fukaya Room "A" at the Fremont Main Library, for
Saturday May 22, from 11:30 to 5pm.

You da man.

-Tom McD.
don't step in the spamcake.


Subject: 
BayLUG Get-together in May!
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  Mark Benz,  Well done! Thanks for taking the lead on this! :-)
     (Mark's message is appended to the end of this message.)

  So, the gauntlet has been thrown down. We have a large meeting
room at the Fremont Public Library (Stevenson Blvd. just east of
Paseo Padre Parkway; 2 short blocks from BART Fremont station!).
The date is Saturday, 5/22/99, from 11:30a-4:30p. We just need
to supply the LEGOs, and show up. :-)

Since Mark is busy with work, I'm offering to be the coordinator
for this first quarterly meeting of BayLUG. Since I live in Fremont,
I'm planning to bring lots of train stuff. Do folks want to stick
to a town/train theme, with a general show & tell, or do we want
to open it up to anything folks want to bring?

  We've got 5 weeks to plan this...does anyone else have time to
put this together? (Anyone want to work on the task of Grab Bags? ;-)

  I suggest that we discuss this on the LUGNET groups, and make sure
that we include the SJ and OAK sub-groups. (Feel encouraged to forward
this to others who may not be regular LUGNET readers!)

           -Z-       http://baylug.org
______________________________________________
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:39:27 -0700
From: Mark Benz <mbenz@us.oracle.com>
To: zonkerh@corp.webtv.net
Subject: Lego Get Together, I GOT A ROOM!

Hi Zonker,
I have booked the Fukaya Room "A" at the Fremont Main Library, for
Saturday May 22, from 11:30 to 5pm. It hold up to 96 people, the 25
person room was booked.  It was the longest block of weekend time I
could get. It is far enough out from now that hopefully we can get a
good turnout.  Clean up must start at 4:30 as we have to be out by 5. I
am the contact person. They have tables we can use. She is Faxing me the
application.


Subject: 
BayLUG Get-together in May!
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  Mark Benz,  Well done! Thanks for taking the lead on this! :-)
     (Mark's message is appended to the end of this message.)

  So, the gauntlet has been thrown down. We have a large meeting
room at the Fremont Public Library (Stevenson Blvd. just east of
Paseo Padre Parkway; 2 short blocks from BART Fremont station!).
The date is Saturday, 5/22/99, from 11:30a-4:30p. We just need
to supply the LEGOs, and show up. :-)

Since Mark is busy with work, I'm offering to be the coordinator
for this first quarterly meeting of BayLUG. Since I live in Fremont,
I'm planning to bring lots of train stuff. Do folks want to stick
to a town/train theme, with a general show & tell, or do we want
to open it up to anything folks want to bring?

  We've got 5 weeks to plan this...does anyone else have time to
put this together? (Anyone want to work on the task of Grab Bags? ;-)

  I suggest that we discuss this on the LUGNET groups, and make sure
that we include the SJ and OAK sub-groups. (Feel encouraged to forward
this to others who may not be regular LUGNET readers!)

           -Z-       http://baylug.org
______________________________________________
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:39:27 -0700
From: Mark Benz <mbenz@us.oracle.com>
To: zonkerh@corp.webtv.net
Subject: Lego Get Together, I GOT A ROOM!

Hi Zonker,
I have booked the Fukaya Room "A" at the Fremont Main Library, for
Saturday May 22, from 11:30 to 5pm. It hold up to 96 people, the 25
person room was booked.  It was the longest block of weekend time I
could get. It is far enough out from now that hopefully we can get a
good turnout.  Clean up must start at 4:30 as we have to be out by 5. I
am the contact person. They have tables we can use. She is Faxing me the
application.


Subject: 
BayLUG Get-together in May!
Newsgroups: 
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  Mark Benz,  Well done! Thanks for taking the lead on this! :-)
     (Mark's message is appended to the end of this message.)

  So, the gauntlet has been thrown down. We have a large meeting
room at the Fremont Public Library (Stevenson Blvd. just east of
Paseo Padre Parkway; 2 short blocks from BART Fremont station!).
The date is Saturday, 5/22/99, from 11:30a-4:30p. We just need
to supply the LEGOs, and show up. :-)

Since Mark is busy with work, I'm offering to be the coordinator
for this first quarterly meeting of BayLUG. Since I live in Fremont,
I'm planning to bring lots of train stuff. Do folks want to stick
to a town/train theme, with a general show & tell, or do we want
to open it up to anything folks want to bring?

  We've got 5 weeks to plan this...does anyone else have time to
put this together? (Anyone want to work on the task of Grab Bags? ;-)

  I suggest that we discuss this on the LUGNET groups, and make sure
that we include the SJ and OAK sub-groups. (Feel encouraged to forward
this to others who may not be regular LUGNET readers!)

           -Z-       http://baylug.org
______________________________________________
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:39:27 -0700
From: Mark Benz <mbenz@us.oracle.com>
To: zonkerh@corp.webtv.net
Subject: Lego Get Together, I GOT A ROOM!

Hi Zonker,
I have booked the Fukaya Room "A" at the Fremont Main Library, for
Saturday May 22, from 11:30 to 5pm. It hold up to 96 people, the 25
person room was booked.  It was the longest block of weekend time I
could get. It is far enough out from now that hopefully we can get a
good turnout.  Clean up must start at 4:30 as we have to be out by 5. I
am the contact person. They have tables we can use. She is Faxing me the
application.


Subject: 
LEGO Mindstorms Robot Arena
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Hello,
Many may already know this, but I am organizing a LEGO robotic combat
tournament this March in San Jose, CA. If you are interested or want more
info, check out

http://www.azimuthmedia.com/RobotArena/

Thanks,
Nate


Subject: 
1st Post
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For those so interested, you say it as, "conquered".

Let there be lego.

--
From Tom McDonald
Anti-spam block in place.
http://mbr-hobby.neotown.com/radiotitan/lego/lego.html
radiotitan@yahoo.com


--
Do what you can, but behave yourself.

We'll have more, right after this.


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TERMINATION

   This agreement is effective until terminated by LUGNET or its owners
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SEVERABILITY

   This agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with
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COPYRIGHT NOTICE

   Except where otherwise noted or where implicitly understood (such
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   LEGO Group), all material on this site site is Copyright ©1998 by
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OTHER

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   Contact terms@lugnet.com with questions or problems, as appropriate.


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Last Updated: 27 Sep 1998


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Welcome to lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf.con, a LUGNET discussion group.


CHARTER/PURPOSE:

   lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf.con (group):
      Concord, California, U.S.A.

   lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf (group and hierarchy):
      San Francisco Bay Area, California, U.S.A.

   lugnet.loc.us (group and hierarchy):
      United States of America (U.S.A.).

   lugnet.loc.* (hierarchy):
      General-purpose discussion groups for specific localities around the
      world: events, social gatherings, swap-meets, fests, tours, shopping
      excursions, local user group meetings, etc.


OTHER GROUPS:

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