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Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:01:31 GMT
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on bulkpage1.asp ??  I don't see any mentionof 2x6's.  I see

C. 2 x 8 BRICK 25 piece bag   $8.99

with a picture of a green 2x8 brick.

Ryan

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Chris Gray wrote:

Tom Stangl <toms@netscape.com> writes:

Well, the new Bulk pages already have a mistake - the 2x6 bricks use a
picture of a 2x8 - wasn't that an OLD error that they never fixed? • They
had a perfect opportunity to fix it with the update, and blew it.

Your browser cache might need flushing or something. I haven't visited
www.lego.com for a while, but did so just now. I see 2 x 8's for sale
with a picture of a 2 x 8, but no 2 x 6 picture or mention.

Can you look at that again?  http://www.lego.com/bulk/ - very first row, • far
right - green 2x8 BRICK pictured, yet the description under it (and on the
left frame) is 2xSIX. (Black Item #3463, etc, etc)


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Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:24:31 GMT
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There's your problem - you still see the old site.  The NEW site has:

2x6 Brick
Black Item #3463
Light Grey Item #3464
White Item #3465
Dark Green Item #3466
Red Item #3467

Pictured above them is a 2xEIGHT brick.  No prices listed on the new site yet.



Ryan J Schave wrote:

on bulkpage1.asp ??  I don't see any mentionof 2x6's.  I see

C. 2 x 8 BRICK 25 piece bag   $8.99

with a picture of a green 2x8 brick.

Ryan

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Chris Gray wrote:

Tom Stangl <toms@netscape.com> writes:

Well, the new Bulk pages already have a mistake - the 2x6 bricks use a
picture of a 2x8 - wasn't that an OLD error that they never fixed? • They
had a perfect opportunity to fix it with the update, and blew it.

Your browser cache might need flushing or something. I haven't visited
www.lego.com for a while, but did so just now. I see 2 x 8's for sale
with a picture of a 2 x 8, but no 2 x 6 picture or mention.

Can you look at that again?  http://www.lego.com/bulk/ - very first row, • far
right - green 2x8 BRICK pictured, yet the description under it (and on the
left frame) is 2xSIX. (Black Item #3463, etc, etc)


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Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:34:42 GMT
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The prices are there, but it's just a kinda round about way of getting to them.
You need to click check availability, then you get to choose where you are
located, then you get a price list.

I think instead of "check availability" they should have "click for prices".
Julie

In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom Stangl writes:
There's your problem - you still see the old site.  The NEW site has:

2x6 Brick
Black Item #3463
Light Grey Item #3464
White Item #3465
Dark Green Item #3466
Red Item #3467

Pictured above them is a 2xEIGHT brick.  No prices listed on the new site yet.



Ryan J Schave wrote:

on bulkpage1.asp ??  I don't see any mentionof 2x6's.  I see

C. 2 x 8 BRICK 25 piece bag   $8.99

with a picture of a green 2x8 brick.

Ryan

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Chris Gray wrote:

Tom Stangl <toms@netscape.com> writes:

Well, the new Bulk pages already have a mistake - the 2x6 bricks use a
picture of a 2x8 - wasn't that an OLD error that they never fixed? • They
had a perfect opportunity to fix it with the update, and blew it.

Your browser cache might need flushing or something. I haven't visited
www.lego.com for a while, but did so just now. I see 2 x 8's for sale
with a picture of a 2 x 8, but no 2 x 6 picture or mention.

Can you look at that again?  http://www.lego.com/bulk/ - very first row, • far
right - green 2x8 BRICK pictured, yet the description under it (and on the
left frame) is 2xSIX. (Black Item #3463, etc, etc)


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Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:40:51 GMT
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Yes, you get a list - the FULL list - it would be more useful if you got the price
for the part you were checking on, rather than having to remember the part # then
look it up on the full list.

Julie Krenz wrote:

The prices are there, but it's just a kinda round about way of getting to them.
You need to click check availability, then you get to choose where you are
located, then you get a price list.

I think instead of "check availability" they should have "click for prices".
Julie

In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom Stangl writes:
There's your problem - you still see the old site.  The NEW site has:

2x6 Brick
Black Item #3463
Light Grey Item #3464
White Item #3465
Dark Green Item #3466
Red Item #3467

Pictured above them is a 2xEIGHT brick.  No prices listed on the new site yet.



Ryan J Schave wrote:

on bulkpage1.asp ??  I don't see any mentionof 2x6's.  I see

C. 2 x 8 BRICK 25 piece bag   $8.99

with a picture of a green 2x8 brick.

Ryan

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news:39C1B716.2B4D17C3@vfaq.com...


Chris Gray wrote:

Tom Stangl <toms@netscape.com> writes:

Well, the new Bulk pages already have a mistake - the 2x6 bricks use a
picture of a 2x8 - wasn't that an OLD error that they never fixed? • They
had a perfect opportunity to fix it with the update, and blew it.

Your browser cache might need flushing or something. I haven't visited
www.lego.com for a while, but did so just now. I see 2 x 8's for sale
with a picture of a 2 x 8, but no 2 x 6 picture or mention.

Can you look at that again?  http://www.lego.com/bulk/ - very first row, • far
right - green 2x8 BRICK pictured, yet the description under it (and on the
left frame) is 2xSIX. (Black Item #3463, etc, etc)


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Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:48:44 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom Stangl writes:
Yes, you get a list - the FULL list - it would be more useful if you got the
price
for the part you were checking on, rather than having to remember the part #
then
look it up on the full list.

<snip>

Do they have *new* bulk elements?

Jude

Blind to the new changes thus far...


Subject: 
Why does TLC collect GST?!? (was Re: Lego New is Up (and...))
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.shopping
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:09:24 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom Stangl writes:
Yes, you get a list - the FULL list - it would be more useful if
you got the price for the part you were checking on, rather than
having to remember the part # then look it up on the full list.

Absolutely - I suspect we would all concur.  Perhaps that is going
to be "fixed" when the on-line ordering becomes available.

Julie Krenz wrote:
The prices are there, but it's just a kinda round about way of
getting to them.  You need to click check availability, then you
get to choose where you are located, then you get a price list.
I think instead of "check availability" they should have
"click for prices".

Another good point.  What really bother's me though is this:

   " In placing your order, you authorize LEGO Shop at Home to appoint
   a Canadian customs broker to act on your behalf to obtain customs
   clearance of your merchandise and remit applicable duties AND TAXES
   to Revenue Canada. Amounts received by LEGO Direct for duties AND
   TAXES are accepted on your behalf, for the broker. "   (Emphasis mine)

I know from my last order that they are charging GST on items.  This IMO
is totally bogus!  The GST applies to purchases made IN CANADA.  We're
buying something from the USA, (as evidenced by the customs charge) so
the GST does not apply.  We Canadians already know we're taxed more
than anywhere else, so I'll restrain myself from ranting about that.  What
I want to know is why is TLC doing Ottawa's dirty work?  I can understand
them collecting the duty - it's more efficient for everyone involved - but
why the GST?  Ottawa wants to "have it's cake and eat it to" - No surprise
there, but why is TLC in on the scam?  Oh - Don't forget the "rubbing salt
in the wound" part - It's all done in US$, so the tax is 150% as much as
it should be, and we also get charged a percentage/fee to convert our pesos.

I didn't say anything earlier because I hoped the new site would be different.

SRC
(Who also comments that the new site is just as slow as the old one.)


Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:34:33 GMT
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" wrote:

There's your problem - you still see the old site.  The NEW site has:

2x6 Brick
Black Item #3463
Light Grey Item #3464
White Item #3465
Dark Green Item #3466
Red Item #3467

Pictured above them is a 2xEIGHT brick.  No prices listed on the new site yet.


Tom,

I also see this error.  Interestingly enough, though, it's not the same
error as on the original bulk page (old Lego site) -- the first time, it
said 2x8 brick, but pictured a 2x10, if I remember correctly.

Jeff


Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:37:54 GMT
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Jude Beaudin wrote:

In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom Stangl writes:
Yes, you get a list - the FULL list - it would be more useful if you got the
price
for the part you were checking on, rather than having to remember the part #
then
look it up on the full list.

<snip>

Do they have *new* bulk elements?

Jude

Blind to the new changes thus far...


Hi Jude,

No, the set of elements is the same, allowing for the error on the 2x8
brick.

I suspect that your problem has to do with retrieving pages from a proxy
or from a local DNS which still has the old address cached.  Be patient
and I'm sure you'll get to see it soon :)

It's nice and all, but it'll be a whole lot nicer once they add more
bulk elements, and Brad suggested that wouldn't be until October - my
guess would be LATE October :)

They've added the S@H pages & infrastructure, which is nice, but they
don't seem to have learned a lesson about site speed and Flash
graphics.  Oh well.

Jeff


Subject: 
Re: Why does TLC collect GST?!? (was Re: Lego New is Up (and...))
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:40:28 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Steve Chapple writes:
Another good point.  What really bother's me though is this:

  " In placing your order, you authorize LEGO Shop at Home to appoint
  a Canadian customs broker to act on your behalf to obtain customs
  clearance of your merchandise and remit applicable duties AND TAXES
  to Revenue Canada. Amounts received by LEGO Direct for duties AND
  TAXES are accepted on your behalf, for the broker. "   (Emphasis mine)

I know from my last order that they are charging GST on items.  This IMO
is totally bogus!  The GST applies to purchases made IN CANADA.  We're
buying something from the USA, (as evidenced by the customs charge) so
the GST does not apply.  We Canadians already know we're taxed more
than anywhere else, so I'll restrain myself from ranting about that.  What
I want to know is why is TLC doing Ottawa's dirty work?  I can understand
them collecting the duty - it's more efficient for everyone involved - but
why the GST?  Ottawa wants to "have it's cake and eat it to" - No surprise
there, but why is TLC in on the scam?  Oh - Don't forget the "rubbing salt
in the wound" part - It's all done in US$, so the tax is 150% as much as
it should be, and we also get charged a percentage/fee to convert our pesos.

Whenever you buy something internationally, and have it shipped to you, you
pay applicable duties and taxes - which in the case of toys, is 0% duty and 7%
tax.

I'm not sure what you mean by the tax being 150% of what it should be - 7% is
7%, regardless of the currency.

When I ordered grey brick packs (5145) back in the spring, I did some math,
and figured out as best I could from the prices of the packs & the current
exchange rate, how much it cost me now that S@H moved to the US.  Over 20
brick packs, the difference was pennies.

LEGO charges you X amount USD for your order, and it's your credit
card/bank/whatever that does the currency conversion.  If you're getting
burned on the exchange rate, that's what's doing it.


James


Subject: 
Re: Why does TLC collect GST?!? (was Re: Lego New is Up (and...))
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:54:20 GMT
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SRC wrote:

I know from my last order that they are charging GST on items.  This IMO
is totally bogus!  The GST applies to purchases made IN CANADA.  We're
buying something from the USA, (as evidenced by the customs charge) so
the GST does not apply.

No, the GST applies to purchases made by Canadians. If you buy something
in the US and bring it back in and pay customs duty on it, you get to
pay GST too. If you subscribe to a US magazine, the cost includes GST.
If you mail order something from the US and the mail order co DOESN't
collect the GST, you pay GST on it when it gets here and Canada Post
collects a $5 "handling fee" as well to add insult to injur. So Lego's
$2 US fee is cheaper!

in the wound" part - It's all done in US$, so the tax is 150% as much as
it should be,

7% of the US price, converted into CN$, is the same as converting the
price to CN$ and then taking 7% of it. How do you come up with 150%??

and we also get charged a percentage/fee to convert our pesos.

Hmmm? I don't see that in the catalog or on the orders I made recently.
You can actually pay by mail in CN$ with no conversion fee, and the rate
(at 1.43) is better than what you'd get at the bank and better than the
1.5.. I was charged by my CC company.

Kevin
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Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:11:39 GMT
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Blind to the new changes thus far...

I can see said the blindman!!!

Finally :-)

Jude


Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
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Date: 
Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:12:51 GMT
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As Tom mentioned, that's the old site. However, I think I like the old site
just a bit more. Seems that if you want to sell a product, you should
provide all the info you can about the product in the most convenient manner
possible. Not listing a price and demanding a person to click on more web
pages to find out the cost does not seem well designed to me, especially if
the pages don't load quickly.

Maybe I just like to gripe. :)

Mark


Ryan J Schave wrote:

on bulkpage1.asp ??  I don't see any mentionof 2x6's.  I see

C. 2 x 8 BRICK 25 piece bag   $8.99

with a picture of a green 2x8 brick.

Ryan

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Chris Gray wrote:

Tom Stangl <toms@netscape.com> writes:

Well, the new Bulk pages already have a mistake - the 2x6 bricks use a
picture of a 2x8 - wasn't that an OLD error that they never fixed? • They
had a perfect opportunity to fix it with the update, and blew it.

Your browser cache might need flushing or something. I haven't visited
www.lego.com for a while, but did so just now. I see 2 x 8's for sale
with a picture of a 2 x 8, but no 2 x 6 picture or mention.

Can you look at that again?  http://www.lego.com/bulk/ - very first row, • far
right - green 2x8 BRICK pictured, yet the description under it (and on the
left frame) is 2xSIX. (Black Item #3463, etc, etc)


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Subject: 
Re: Why does TLC collect GST?!? (was Re: Lego New is Up (and...))
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:09:29 GMT
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In lugnet.market.shopping, Kevin Wilson writes:
I know from my last order that they are charging GST on items.  This IMO
is totally bogus!  The GST applies to purchases made IN CANADA.  We're
buying something from the USA, (as evidenced by the customs charge) so
the GST does not apply.

No, the GST applies to purchases made by Canadians. If you buy something
in the US and bring it back in and pay customs duty on it, you get to
pay GST too.  ...Canada Post collects a $5 "handling fee" as well...

I'm not surprised at what IS, I'm saying that it SHOULD not be occuring.
It is double-dipping.  The GST was to take the place of the manufaturer's
tax.  Duty is to "protect" domestic companies from foreign competition.
(With NAFTA, there shouldn't really even BE duty from the USA, but anyway,)
I can (grudgingly) accept being charged duty OR GST, but BOTH should
not be charged.  And yes - that $5 "processing fee" is even more bogus!


7% of the US price, converted into CN$, is the same as converting the
price to CN$ and then taking 7% of it. How do you come up with 150%??

7% of US$20 is Cdn$2.10 while 7% of Cdn$20 is $1.40.  Yes, if you are
using Cdn$30 the result will be the same.  (I was trying to make a point.)


and we also get charged a percentage/fee to convert our pesos.

Hmmm? I don't see that in the catalog or on the orders I made recently.

No, that's got nothing to do with TLC - Purely a bank conversion issue.

SRC

(Who's even more pissed now because he's been reminded of Cananda
Post's $5 pay-us-to-do-what-we-were-doing-anyway "processing fee".)


Subject: 
Re: Lego New is Up (and ALREADY a mistake)
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:30:51 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom Stangl writes:

2x6 Brick
Black Item #3463
Light Grey Item #3464
White Item #3465
Dark Green Item #3466
Red Item #3467

Pictured above them is a 2xEIGHT brick.

I don't know when this was corrected, but it is a two by six today, and I
don't think anyone mentioned it previously.
BEN


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