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If you're a freak like me, you love to convert things into minifig scale and
technic scale. You want to see exactly how long a minifig-scale mile would
be. And how tall would the Sears tower be in technic scale? Would a minifig
scale aircraft carrier fit in my room? How big is my room to my figs? Etc.
In a recent stint I decided I had enough and built myself a little
conversion tool. So I thought I'd share it with the world. Or the Lego
community at least:
http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
Right now it only does minifig/technic fig scales, and also only goes by fig
height, but I haven't quite yet ever been so inclined to go by any other
measurement (since human widths and depths are hardly as 'standard'), so I
figured "nah".
Anyway, enjoy!
DaveE
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Dude, this is so cool!!
Now I can know how big my mechs are! Wahoo!
Mark
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
>
> http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
Hi Dave
Nice! But for some reason, the result table isn't displayed when I use
Netscrape 4.6. Can't see anything wrong with the HTML - strange.
ROSCO
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In lugnet.general, Ross Crawford writes:
> In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> >
> > http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
>
> Hi Dave
>
> Nice! But for some reason, the result table isn't displayed when I use
> Netscrape 4.6. Can't see anything wrong with the HTML - strange.
Doh! Sorry, I forgot a </table> tag at the end of the result table :(
Should be fixed now.
DaveE
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That is very cool. Thanks.
Nice to see that I was pretty much right on assuming 3 studs was a mini-meter.
-Mike Petrucelli
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
>
> Doh! Sorry, I forgot a </table> tag at the end of the result table :(
> Should be fixed now.
Yep! thanks!
ROSCO
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In lugnet.general, Mike Petrucelli writes:
> That is very cool. Thanks.
> Nice to see that I was pretty much right on assuming 3 studs was a mini-meter.
Yep-- that's about the most accurate "even" measurement you can make
(despite the fact that I typically use 7mm per minifig foot in my ever
stubbornness). Makes minifigs about 1.75m tall and almost 5'9", whereas
"average" human height is about 5'6" even (1.6764m).
DaveE
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very cool
how long before your conversion scale is adopted as the norm and everyone is
quoting their MOCs in fig-meters
:)
--
James Stacey
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www.minifig.co.uk
#925 - I'm a citizen of Legoland travelling Incommunicado
"David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> wrote in message
news:GsuD9o.JtD@lugnet.com...
> If you're a freak like me, you love to convert things into minifig scale • and
> technic scale. You want to see exactly how long a minifig-scale mile would
> be. And how tall would the Sears tower be in technic scale? Would a • minifig
> scale aircraft carrier fit in my room? How big is my room to my figs? Etc.
> In a recent stint I decided I had enough and built myself a little
> conversion tool. So I thought I'd share it with the world. Or the Lego
> community at least:
>
> http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
>
> Right now it only does minifig/technic fig scales, and also only goes by • fig
> height, but I haven't quite yet ever been so inclined to go by any other
> measurement (since human widths and depths are hardly as 'standard'), so I
> figured "nah".
>
> Anyway, enjoy!
>
> DaveE
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All I need to know now, is approximately how big a diameter a Death Star
has. <g> There'd have to be some compression of scale of a model that big,
but I suppose something suitably spherical and not too cramped-looking could
be figured out. :-)
I would guess that I'd have to do it virtually, or figure out how to buy my
own planet to put the model on! <g>
--
Cheers ...
Geoffrey Hyde
(Remove spamblock to reply.)
"David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> wrote in message
news:GsuD9o.JtD@lugnet.com...
> If you're a freak like me, you love to convert things into minifig scale • and
> technic scale. You want to see exactly how long a minifig-scale mile would
> be. And how tall would the Sears tower be in technic scale? Would a • minifig
> scale aircraft carrier fit in my room? How big is my room to my figs? Etc.
> In a recent stint I decided I had enough and built myself a little
> conversion tool. So I thought I'd share it with the world. Or the Lego
> community at least:
>
> http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
>
> Right now it only does minifig/technic fig scales, and also only goes by • fig
> height, but I haven't quite yet ever been so inclined to go by any other
> measurement (since human widths and depths are hardly as 'standard'), so I
> figured "nah".
>
> Anyway, enjoy!
>
> DaveE
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.general, Ross Crawford writes:
> > In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> > >
> > > http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
> >
> > Hi Dave
> >
> > Nice! But for some reason, the result table isn't displayed when I use
> > Netscrape 4.6. Can't see anything wrong with the HTML - strange.
>
> Doh! Sorry, I forgot a </table> tag at the end of the result table :(
> Should be fixed now.
>
> DaveE
Cool. Way useless, way fun. But what's a "mimifig" ? all the units are in
mimifigs, is that some sort of take off on mm and minifig???
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Does the stud on the minifig's head count as part of its height, or do only
short minifigs include that?
Scott A
=+=
Have you inspected Arthur’s Seat yet?
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=scotta
"A reasonable man adapts himself to suit his environment. An unreasonable
man persists in attempting to adapt his environment to suit himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." (GBS)
=+=
In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> If you're a freak like me, you love to convert things into minifig scale and
> technic scale. You want to see exactly how long a minifig-scale mile would
> be. And how tall would the Sears tower be in technic scale? Would a minifig
> scale aircraft carrier fit in my room? How big is my room to my figs? Etc.
> In a recent stint I decided I had enough and built myself a little
> conversion tool. So I thought I'd share it with the world. Or the Lego
> community at least:
>
> http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
>
> Right now it only does minifig/technic fig scales, and also only goes by fig
> height, but I haven't quite yet ever been so inclined to go by any other
> measurement (since human widths and depths are hardly as 'standard'), so I
> figured "nah".
>
> Anyway, enjoy!
>
> DaveE
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Awesome!Very neat, and geekyin a great way!
Is it possible at all to add a feature to do the oppossite; so one can
figure out how many studs a certain length in meters would be. So for
example if I wanted to build a replica of a 17 meter long helicopter, I
could figure out how many studs it should be?
cheers
Magnus
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> Is it possible at all to add a feature to do the oppossite; so one can
> figure out how many studs a certain length in meters would be. So for
> example if I wanted to build a replica of a 17 meter long helicopter, I
> could figure out how many studs it should be?
Unless I'm missing something in your question, this is already built in.
For your example you'd put 17 in the top box, select meters and click
convert. 17 meters would be 2125 studs long.
Isn't that what you were looking for?
Ben Roller
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It does.
Measure it in fig meters
17 fig meters is 48.8 studs
--
James Stacey
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www.minifig.co.uk
#925 - I'm a citizen of Legoland travelling Incommunicado
"Magnus Lauglo" <thunder_road@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Gsv8EG.D2L@lugnet.com...
> Awesome!Very neat, and geekyin a great way!
>
> Is it possible at all to add a feature to do the oppossite; so one can
> figure out how many studs a certain length in meters would be. So for
> example if I wanted to build a replica of a 17 meter long helicopter, I
> could figure out how many studs it should be?
>
> cheers
>
> Magnus
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In lugnet.general, Ben Roller writes:
> Isn't that what you were looking for?
I'm guessing not. I just realized that you probably didn't want your model
to actually be 17 meters long. :) James answered you better here:
http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=36027
That'll teach me to post to Lugnet before breakfast. ;)
Ben Roller
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In lugnet.general, Scott Arthur writes:
> Does the stud on the minifig's head count as part of its height, or do only
> short minifigs include that?
I estimated minifigs at a height of 42mm, which was (IIRC) the total overall
height of a minifig consisting of:
-minifig hip & legs assembly
-minifig torso
-minifig head
-minifig male hair
You can adjust minifig height with different hair (or no hair), backpack
accessories, dresses (instead of legs), Stubbies(tm), and probably other
things. I just tried to go as "standard" as possible...
DaveE
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
So I thought I'd share it with the world. Or the Lego
> community at least:
>
> http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
> Anyway, enjoy!
>
> DaveE
Dave, you ROCK! This is quite a great little app-- I will use it constantly! I
wish I had a dime for every time I've gotten out the calculator to figure out
scales and such-- this will negate all that:-)
Thank you!
-John
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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Cool. Way useless, way fun. But what's a "mimifig" ? all the units are in
> mimifigs, is that some sort of take off on mm and minifig???
Should see the code-- "mf" might've meant "minifig" or "minifig feet"-- and
of course I convert first into minifig inches and minifig millimeters, so
I've got mfin & mfmm, which just starts to look confusing. Not to mention
assigning names (which still don't make sense) to things like "human scale",
"minifig scale", "minifig assumed height", "minifig assumed units",
"conversion value", "conversion units", "fig scale type", etc. Oh well-- at
least nobody looks at that part :)
DaveE
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Cool. Way useless, way fun. But what's a "mimifig" ? all the units are in
> > mimifigs, is that some sort of take off on mm and minifig???
>
> Should see the code-- "mf" might've meant "minifig" or "minifig feet"-- and
> of course I convert first into minifig inches and minifig millimeters, so
> I've got mfin & mfmm, which just starts to look confusing. Not to mention
> assigning names (which still don't make sense) to things like "human scale",
> "minifig scale", "minifig assumed height", "minifig assumed units",
> "conversion value", "conversion units", "fig scale type", etc. Oh well-- at
> least nobody looks at that part :)
OK, so in other words it's a typo and all that razzle dazzle above is
intended to disguise it?? ;-)
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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> > In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > Cool. Way useless, way fun. But what's a "mimifig" ? all the units are in
> > > mimifigs, is that some sort of take off on mm and minifig???
> >
> > Should see the code-- "mf" might've meant "minifig" or "minifig feet"-- and
> > of course I convert first into minifig inches and minifig millimeters, so
> > I've got mfin & mfmm, which just starts to look confusing. Not to mention
> > assigning names (which still don't make sense) to things like "human scale",
> > "minifig scale", "minifig assumed height", "minifig assumed units",
> > "conversion value", "conversion units", "fig scale type", etc. Oh well-- at
> > least nobody looks at that part :)
>
> OK, so in other words it's a typo and all that razzle dazzle above is
> intended to disguise it?? ;-)
He's on to me...
DaveE
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In lugnet.general, Geoffrey Hyde writes:
> All I need to know now, is approximately how big a diameter a Death Star
> has. <g> There'd have to be some compression of scale of a model that big,
> but I suppose something suitably spherical and not too cramped-looking could
> be figured out. :-)
>
> I would guess that I'd have to do it virtually, or figure out how to buy my
> own planet to put the model on! <g>
>
> --
> Cheers ...
>
> Geoffrey Hyde
Geoff,
Well, according to my 1997 Star Wars "The Vehicles" Calendar the Death Star
is (was) 160 km in diameter. So using Mr. Eaton's convertor with one minifig
at six feet you get a diameter of 459317.59 studs!! (Actual scale size would
then be 2.28 miles (3.67 km)!!
Let me know when you have all the bricks to start this puppy,
Peter
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In lugnet.general, Peter Langlois writes:
> Well, according to my 1997 Star Wars "The Vehicles" Calendar the Death Star
> is (was) 160 km in diameter. So using Mr. Eaton's convertor with one minifig
> at six feet you get a diameter of 459317.59 studs!! (Actual scale size would
> then be 2.28 miles (3.67 km)!!
heh, would that be enough mass to actually have it's own (significant)
gravity? like a very small moon, or something?
:)
XFUT lugnet.off-topic.geek
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In lugnet.general, Dan Boger writes:
> In lugnet.general, Peter Langlois writes:
> > Well, according to my 1997 Star Wars "The Vehicles" Calendar the Death Star
> > is (was) 160 km in diameter. So using Mr. Eaton's convertor with one minifig
> > at six feet you get a diameter of 459317.59 studs!! (Actual scale size would
> > then be 2.28 miles (3.67 km)!!
>
> heh, would that be enough mass to actually have it's own (significant)
> gravity? like a very small moon, or something?
I get (going by volume) approximately 22,029,937,442,631,307 2x4 bricks that
would fit, which of course isn't accounting for air pockets or anything.
Assuming that probably 3/4 of the Death Star is empty space, that's
[only!] 5,507,484,360,657,826 2x4 bricks (5.5 quadrillion).
Now, I couldn't find the mass of a 2x4 brick, but I found the mass of a 1x8
brick (1). And since I went by volume anyway, let's say it's about the same. A
1x8 weighs 3.06061g. So the Death Star's about 16,856,261,709,072 kg. (2)
The Earth is about 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000,000kg, and the moon is about
73,490,000,000,000,000,000,000kg (3). So we're talking 0.00000002313% of the
moon's mass-- so, no, not really too much gravity-wise. Probably not even
enough to be comparable to the moon's gravity with respect to minifigs... Oh
well. But it might be darned near close to the heaviest thing ever built by
people-- maybe. I dunno about the pyramids-- they were pretty solid and also
huge... but I don't feel quite geeky enough at the moment to check that factoid
out :)
DaveE
(1) Chris Tracey - http://news.lugnet.com/market/shipping/?n=362
(2) Note: I think figures given are for the completed Death Star II. Death Star
I was smaller, IIRC.
(3) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/moonfact.html
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"David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> writes:
> If you're a freak like me, you love to convert things into minifig scale and
> technic scale. You want to see exactly how long a minifig-scale mile would
> be. And how tall would the Sears tower be in technic scale? Would a minifig
> scale aircraft carrier fit in my room? How big is my room to my figs? Etc.
> In a recent stint I decided I had enough and built myself a little
> conversion tool. So I thought I'd share it with the world. Or the Lego
> community at least:
>
> http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
>
> Right now it only does minifig/technic fig scales, and also only goes by fig
> height, but I haven't quite yet ever been so inclined to go by any other
> measurement (since human widths and depths are hardly as 'standard'), so I
> figured "nah".
This is such a great idea!! I may start using this thing every day!
(Can I have the source code?)
--Bill.
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William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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In lugnet.general, William R. Ward writes:
> > http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
>
> This is such a great idea!! I may start using this thing every day!
> (Can I have the source code?)
The source is a little messy, though I was thinking of going through and
polishing it off a bit tonight to look a little cleaner. If someone wants to
turn it into Javascript or some such, that'd probably be pretty handy, since
(as someone pointed out to me via email) it'd be available offline (or if
suave.net goes down), and wouldn't put a load on the server (not that it's
doing much of a load-- but it's the thought that counts).
According to suave's logs (3:51pm EST), it's taken 1567 hits since last night,
and done 1140 actual converts, and about... oh... 3.7 megs of data served. Not
sure about CPU. So not really too bad. Anyway, maybe Ill smooth out the code a
bit if anyone wants it...
DaveE
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Wow. The circle of my space station has a diameter of 128 minifig feet!
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Hey,
Cool tool!
I was just converting scales today for some models, and wanting an easier
way of doing it-and here you are! what do they say about great minds running
on the same track?;-)
of coarse you did it the easy way.... I was going to write something in
BASIC.
I shall be useing this a LOT!
Gary
David Eaton <deaton@intdata.com> wrote in message
news:GsuD9o.JtD@lugnet.com...
> If you're a freak like me, you love to convert things into minifig scale • and
> technic scale. You want to see exactly how long a minifig-scale mile would
> be. And how tall would the Sears tower be in technic scale? Would a • minifig
> scale aircraft carrier fit in my room? How big is my room to my figs? Etc.
> In a recent stint I decided I had enough and built myself a little
> conversion tool. So I thought I'd share it with the world. Or the Lego
> community at least:
>
> http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
>
> Right now it only does minifig/technic fig scales, and also only goes by • fig
> height, but I haven't quite yet ever been so inclined to go by any other
> measurement (since human widths and depths are hardly as 'standard'), so I
> figured "nah".
>
> Anyway, enjoy!
>
> DaveE
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In lugnet.general, Rick Kujawa writes:
> Wow. The circle of my space station has a diameter of 128 minifig feet!
That is going to induce severe vertigo if you actually rotate it (wait, do
minifigs have inner ears? If not, maybe it's no problem)
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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.general, Rick Kujawa writes:
> > Wow. The circle of my space station has a diameter of 128 minifig feet!
>
> That is going to induce severe vertigo if you actually rotate it (wait, do
> minifigs have inner ears? If not, maybe it's no problem)
I didn't know minifigs had ears, not to mention inner ears!
:)
XFUT lugnet.off-topic.fun
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In lugnet.general, Dan Boger writes:
> In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.general, Rick Kujawa writes:
> > > Wow. The circle of my space station has a diameter of 128 minifig feet!
> >
> > That is going to induce severe vertigo if you actually rotate it (wait, do
> > minifigs have inner ears? If not, maybe it's no problem)
>
> I didn't know minifigs had ears, not to mention inner ears!
>
> :)
>
> XFUT lugnet.off-topic.fun
They don't have inner ears, that is why their feet grip studs to make sure
they can remain standing. This is why there is a high probability of
minifigs falling over when standing on a smooth surface. Just a theory though...
If they don't have ears, why do male minifigs have their hair cut as it
there were ears?
Jude
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ahh they only have an inner ear. That's why you cant see them
--
James Stacey
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www.minifig.co.uk
#925 - I'm a citizen of Legoland travelling Incommunicado
"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:Gsx1DD.ByM@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.general, Rick Kujawa writes:
> > > Wow. The circle of my space station has a diameter of 128 minifig feet!
> >
> > That is going to induce severe vertigo if you actually rotate it (wait, • do
> > minifigs have inner ears? If not, maybe it's no problem)
>
> I didn't know minifigs had ears, not to mention inner ears!
>
> :)
>
> XFUT lugnet.off-topic.fun
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In lugnet.general, Dan Boger writes:
> In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.general, Rick Kujawa writes:
> > > Wow. The circle of my space station has a diameter of 128 minifig feet!
> >
> > That is going to induce severe vertigo if you actually rotate it (wait, do
> > minifigs have inner ears? If not, maybe it's no problem)
>
> I didn't know minifigs had ears, not to mention inner ears!
Lego molds are very very precise. My theory (now that I took time to think
one up) is that they have inner ears. Just not outer ones. So you don't see
anything on the outside but a flat surface.
If they didn't have ears at all they could not hear me when I give marching
orders and they wouldn't march. (what, your minifigs don't march when you
tell them to? must not be as smart as mine...)... Mine march around and
annoy the cats.
Why is this in off-topic ??? minifig ears seems fairly on topic to me! :-) :-)
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> If they didn't have ears at all they could not hear me when I give marching
> orders and they wouldn't march. (what, your minifigs don't march when you
> tell them to? must not be as smart as mine...)... Mine march around and
> annoy the cats.
I guess my figs don't understand Hebrew... I'd love to have them sneak up
on the cats, rush them... Of course, I'll have to peel the cat off the
ceiling later, but that's ok :)
Dan
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.general, Mike Petrucelli writes:
> > That is very cool. Thanks.
> > Nice to see that I was pretty much right on assuming 3 studs was a mini-meter.
>
> Yep-- that's about the most accurate "even" measurement you can make
> (despite the fact that I typically use 7mm per minifig foot in my ever
> stubbornness). Makes minifigs about 1.75m tall and almost 5'9", whereas
> "average" human height is about 5'6" even (1.6764m).
>
> DaveE
Actually, I thought average height was about 5'11" in the US, so I went and
looked it up. Most sites showed that for the US, average height comes in at
about 5'9". Here is one of the better sites I found in my brief search:
http://www.tall.org/clubs/ny/tcnyc/Resources/Facts___Trivia/body_facts___trivia.html
Actually, due to the ready availability of calories here in the US, I think
that the average height is continueing to increase.
Regards,
Steve Martin
IndyLUG
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> If you're a freak like me, you love to convert things into minifig scale and
> technic scale. You want to see exactly how long a minifig-scale mile would
> be. And how tall would the Sears tower be in technic scale? Would a minifig
> scale aircraft carrier fit in my room? How big is my room to my figs? Etc.
Well, the newest US aircraft carrier, the USS Ronald Reagan CVN 76 is 1092
feet long, giving it a minifig length just a hair over 25 feet. I actually
COULD fit that in my pole barn where my Lego is workshop is. Now, where I
could get that many grey bricks is another matter.
On the other hand, the Sears Tower (at 1353 feet) comes in at a minifig
height (I don't know/care the height of the technic figs) of just over 31
feet. I don't have that much clearance (or that many bricks).
Regards,
Steve Martin
IndyLUG
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Dan Boger writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > If they didn't have ears at all they could not hear me when I give marching
> > orders and they wouldn't march. (what, your minifigs don't march when you
> > tell them to? must not be as smart as mine...)... Mine march around and
> > annoy the cats.
>
> I guess my figs don't understand Hebrew...
Well duh. Try Danish, German, Schweitzerdeutsch, Korean, Portugese or
English (depending on whether you think the place of mold creation or the
place of molding are definitive, and depending on where they were molded,
IIRC TLC had molding facilities in Enfield, somewhere in Brazil, in Korea,
and in Germany as well as in Denmark, and molds themselves were made in (the
German part of???) Switzerland and in Denmark)...
Were minifigs ever molded in Israel???
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Like Larry said this is "on-topic" fun. Followups to lugnet.fun
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Dan Boger writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > If they didn't have ears at all they could not hear me when I give marching
> > orders and they wouldn't march. (what, your minifigs don't march when you
> > tell them to? must not be as smart as mine...)... Mine march around and
> > annoy the cats.
>
> I guess my figs don't understand Hebrew... I'd love to have them sneak up
> on the cats, rush them... Of course, I'll have to peel the cat off the
> ceiling later, but that's ok :)
It's strange my Minifigs must be somewhere in between. They seem to be able to
rush the cats in one's and two's but never in an organized group. This of
course gives the cats the advantage and I have more than once found my cats
swatting a Minifig around on the floor. This is, of course, how I know some of
my Minifigs have attempted to rush my cats. Why would my cats ever attack an
inanimate object?
Eric Kingsley
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In lugnet.general, Steve Martin writes:
> Actually, I thought average height was about 5'11" in the US, so I went and
> looked it up. Most sites showed that for the US, average height comes in at
> about 5'9". Here is one of the better sites I found in my brief search:
>
> http://www.tall.org/clubs/ny/tcnyc/Resources/Facts___Trivia/body_facts___trivi
a.html
From the site:
> The average US adult male is 5'-9.1"
> The average US adult female is 5'-3.7"
Assuming a 50/50 gender distribution, that's 5'-6.4"... but according to
stats... [goes and checks stats] US population is predominantly female
(slightly): 48.90% male 51.10% female (1). Accounting for that, we get average
height at slightly over 5'-6.3"...
But, if you travel around the country/world, different regions have quite
different height norms. IIRC, the southern US states have a higher average
height than northern-- or at least the northeast. Up here I'm considered tall,
and I'm 6'0". Down south, I think I'm considered average, or maybe even
short-ish. Go to Japan, and I'm *very* tall.
Anyway, for the US, I guess the "best" measurement in feet to assume for the
converter is roughly 5.525 feet. However, what I should probably check out is
exactly how much minifig heights can vary by. IE check a minifig consisting of:
- Stubbies (tm)
- Torso
- Head (no hair!)
and compare it with a minifig consisting of:
- 2x2x2 slope (minifig skirt)
- Torso
- Beard (yes, I know he/she's already in a dress)
- Cape
- Head
- Tallest hair I can find (pony tail maybe?)
Then we could actually see something of a height distribution for 'figs and
figure something out... that might actually suggest a "best" height for the
converter as being something like 5.33 feet to reflect the lower end of the
spectrum (since I used a standard minifig w/ male hair for the 42mm
measurement used in the tool estimation).
DaveE
(1) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jude Beaudin writes:
> If they don't have ears, why do male minifigs have their hair cut as it
> there were ears?
And how do their glasses stay up?
BTW in the latest (and final-- it becomes LEGO Magazine (tm) in May) issue of
the Mania mag, a reader asks why minifigs don't have noses or ears, and they
don't give a straight answer.
Maggie C.
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Maggie Cambron writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jude Beaudin writes:
>
> > If they don't have ears, why do male minifigs have their hair cut as it
> > there were ears?
>
> And how do their glasses stay up?
Spirit gum.
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Dan Boger wrote:
>
> In lugnet.general, Peter Langlois writes:
> > Well, according to my 1997 Star Wars "The Vehicles" Calendar the Death Star
> > is (was) 160 km in diameter. So using Mr. Eaton's convertor with one minifig
> > at six feet you get a diameter of 459317.59 studs!! (Actual scale size would
> > then be 2.28 miles (3.67 km)!!
>
> heh, would that be enough mass to actually have it's own (significant)
> gravity? like a very small moon, or something?
"looks like he's heading for that small moon"
.....[snip some dialogue]
"that's no moon... it's a space station (made out of a quadzillion lego
bricks)."
-c
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David Eaton wrote:
> (1) Chris Tracey - http://news.lugnet.com/market/shipping/?n=362
Thanks for reminding me of this. What a fun project! Since I have to
weigh a bunch of stuff tomorrow night anyway, I bring a 2x4 brick along.
-c
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> Assuming a 50/50 gender distribution, that's 5'-6.4"... but according to
> stats... [goes and checks stats] US population is predominantly female
> (slightly): 48.90% male 51.10% female (1). Accounting for that, we get average
> height at slightly over 5'-6.3"...
So, to check minifig height variations, I get minifig height ranging between
roughly 34mm and 49.6mm. For an average, I figured you've got choices for:
legs, torso, neck accessories, head, and hair.
Legs:
9.6mm - Stubbies(tm)
16.0mm - Standard Legs
19.2mm - Minifig skirt
Torso:
12.8mm - Standard torso
Neck Accessories: Generally about 1.1mm, some things were larger (like the
UFO armor), but prevented other things from stacking. Beards oddly enough
didn't add as much, but still allowed stacking for some things... didn't
check the cloth capes. I figured between 0-3 1.1mm back accessories
Head:
11.6mm - Regular head (plus stud)
Hair:
Lots of choices, I checked:
+0.0mm - No hair
+0.9mm - Standard male hair
+2.7mm - Harry Potter hair
+1.4mm - Standard pony tail (minus the actual ponytail)
+1.4mm - Semi-standard neck length straight cut
+1.9mm - Qui Gon's hair
+1.4mm - Padme's hair
+2.3mm - Leia's hair
Amazingly oddly enough, after averaging these out, I got about 41.7mm, which
is just .3mm off from the original guess of 42mm... So as if I weren't
persnickity enough, assuming a US distribution (avg height of 5.525 feet [no
assumptions on age, note]), we get "best" measurement approximations:
1 minifig foot = 7.5475mm
1 minifig meter = 24.7622mm
So apart from feeling rather silly for having done all that, I'm rather
pleased that it came out pretty close... (unless I messed up somewhere)
DaveE
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> Right now it only does minifig/technic fig scales, and also only goes by fig
> height
Wow, cool!
I had to do something like this recently - I teach AutoCAD here at OCC and we
design, draw, and eventually race LEGO dragsters. We mostly use technic parts,
but the minifigs are much more fun to play with so we use them as drivers...
Since the minifig has such goofy proportions for "adults", I used tire size to
convert scale. The tires have a size printed right on them, so if you convert a
30.4 x 14 to "standard" drag slick sizes, you get something like 44 (real) feet
equals mini-quarter mile. Of course all the posts you've been getting on lugnet
about "standard" human height could apply to "standard" tire sizes as well...
If you do it this way, the driver-to-dragster ratio looks more like a Jr.
Dragster - the drivers are only about 4 feet tall! But I think that makes it
kind of fun for kids.
Anyway, the reason I'm writing is I like your way much better - my version
required a 50' long dragstrip (I made mine out of MDF). Your way is much
shorter! And shorter = lighter!
Darrell
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In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.general, Steve Martin writes:
> From the site:
> > The average US adult male is 5'-9.1"
> > The average US adult female is 5'-3.7"
I knew I was above average. It seems that my height is as well. :)
> But, if you travel around the country/world, different regions have quite
> different height norms.
Quite true. I wonder, does this hold true for women as well as men? I've
noticed that men in the south are definately generally taller than men up
north, but what about women?
I'm ~5'10" and live in Kentucky, a North\South border state, so I'm about
medium height (neither tall nor short) for this region but I notice that I
get relatively shorter the farther away from the city I go.
Ben Roller
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In lugnet.general, James Stacey writes:
> very cool
> how long before your conversion scale is adopted as the norm and everyone is
> quoting their MOCs in fig-meters
Would force be specified in fig-newtons?
Steve
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Dan Boger writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > If they didn't have ears at all they could not hear me when I give marching
> > > orders and they wouldn't march. (what, your minifigs don't march when you
> > > tell them to? must not be as smart as mine...)... Mine march around and
> > > annoy the cats.
> >
> > I guess my figs don't understand Hebrew...
>
> Well duh. Try Danish, German, Schweitzerdeutsch, Korean, Portugese or
> English (depending on whether you think the place of mold creation or the
> place of molding are definitive, and depending on where they were molded,
> IIRC TLC had molding facilities in Enfield, somewhere in Brazil, in Korea,
> and in Germany as well as in Denmark, and molds themselves were made in (the
> German part of???) Switzerland and in Denmark)...
>
> Were minifigs ever molded in Israel???
Surely Mini-figs adopt to their surrounding's and are trained at Lego's
expence in the language of whichever world market their sold in.
Just a thought -)
Steve
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