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Re: Usable HTML tags (Was: 202 FAQ items posted to lugnet.faq)
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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:15:07 GMT
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In lugnet.faq, Robert Munafo writes:
In lugnet.faq, Todd Lehman writes:
I think it doesn't hurt to allow <BLOCKQUOTE> -- but I'm having trouble
imagning places where it would be useful.  Heh heh, maybe in acutal block
quotes?  :-)

Well, if you look at my FAQ submissions (and you'll have to save them as
files and open in a web browser to see the formatting) you'll see that I
put BLOCKQUOTE and P around all my URLs to make them stand out. Here are
a couple examples of that:

http://www.lugnet.com/faq/?n=594
http://www.lugnet.com/faq/?n=592

I think it's nice how those are set off, but I see a couple problems:

1.  there is accidental space around the 'foo' in

   <a href="xxx"> foo </a>

which will cause the links to display improperly.  Really it should say

   <a href="xxx">foo</a>

for proper links.

2.  All of the URLs are written out twice.  Is that really necessary?

3.  In the first example (article #594), why not something like this
    instead?--

<p>To get either of these sensors, go to the
<a href="http://www.legoworldshop.com/">LEGO&reg; World Shop</a>, then
select your region and country, then choose LEGO&reg; MindStorms.</p>

<p>For the DACTA online store, go to the
<a href="http://www.pitsco-legodacta-store.com/">Pitsco LEGO DACTA Online
Store</a>, then select "Spare Parts," then select "Sensors."</p>


I also use it in a couple places to make an important piece of advice stand
out. Here is an example of that:

http://www.lugnet.com/faq/?n=554

Ahh, that's a perfect example, IMHO.  :)  Alternatively, though, couldn't
it be written in italics and carry the same mental-weight?


I think BLOCKQUOTE is useful in limited situations. It's sort of a
stylistic (artistic or judgmental) thing. I happen to think URLs should
be set apart from the text of a paragraph rather than embedded in the text
the way most Web authors nowadays do them. I'm not opposed to doing it that
way, but it does make the grammar a little more clumsy, particularly
considering the requirement that the URL has to appear as plain text to
benefit users who for whatever reason can't just click on the link and
jump to the referent page.

Yeah, that definitely sounds like sound rationale.  I agree, and always write
URLs like this as well:

This is the most amazing M-Set explorer I've ever seen:

   http://www.fsf.org/software/xaos/xaos.html

But (I think) it really makes the most sense only when, like you said, when
the URL has to appear as plain text for whatever reason.  On that note, lemme
go respond later tonight to your other message on ASCII->HTML conversion,
which I agree in spirit is really the right approach rather than raw HTML.

--Todd



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(...) Accidental to you maybe, but it was no accident to me. I left space on either side of anchor text to make it more readable. I did that because right now everyone is limited to reading raw FAQ entries. (...) Yes. If the formatting and (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)

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  Re: Usable HTML tags (Was: 202 FAQ items posted to lugnet.faq)
 
(...) Well, if you look at my FAQ submissions (and you'll have to save them as files and open in a web browser to see the formatting) you'll see that I put BLOCKQUOTE and P around all my URLs to make them stand out. Here are a couple examples of (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)

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