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Re: Announcing new set database
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:27:40 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman & Suzanne Rich writes:
LUGNET is pleased to announce a new and improved LEGO set database:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/


Whoa, this is way cool!  Awesome ideas!  I've got a few Q's and suggestions
tho:

1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

2)  Do the Private collection notes simply remain in the boxes, or should a
new addition on the page appear after hitting update? (like with the Public
collection)

3)  Will the presumed-to-eventually-be-massive Public Collection info on each
page appreciably slow the database?  Will there be an option to browse without
seeing those, but simply a link to look at them if desired?

4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

5)  Where/how do we now submit info for the database?  Maybe there needs to be
a little noted added about where to email info to.  I've been using
themes@lugnet.org (I think).


Thanx!
KDJ
________________________________________________________
Kyle D. Jackson, LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:37:35 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

OK, sorry 'bout that.  Do you think it would it help if there were another
"update" button below the rate box?


2)  Do the Private collection notes simply remain in the boxes, or should a
new addition on the page appear after hitting update? (like with the Public
collection)

For now, they're in the box, but probably tomorrow your own personal notes
will also appear along the top...  It's just a loose end to tidy up, and we
wanted to make a cut and and put this up tonight.


3)  Will the presumed-to-eventually-be-massive Public Collection info on
each page appreciably slow the database?  Will there be an option to browse
without seeing those, but simply a link to look at them if desired?

If it gets too long of a list, we could put it on a sub-page.  Someday ya I
think it would be helpful to be able to disable the view of that through some
preference.


4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like the
one shown here?--

   http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/


5)  Where/how do we now submit info for the database?

Nowhere yet, but prolly soon.

--Todd


Maybe there needs to be a little noted added about where to email info to.
I've been using themes@lugnet.org (I think).


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:30:13 GMT
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"Kyle D. Jackson" <flightdeck@sympatico.deletethisspamblock.ca> writes:

1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

P.S.: this is propably off-topic in this group. Which
news-group does it belong into?


Regards,
Hakan

--
"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:35:06 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like the
one shown here?--

  http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/

I think Kyle meant (and even if he didn't, *I'd* like to see it) is that
you can currently get a thumbnail-list by theme, like
<http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=*space&qn=20>.  But it would be nice to be
able to get the same list, but limited to a subtheme, like M:Tron.

And, in another message, Kevin Wilson mentions:

Something I'd like to be able to see would be searching by two different
items eg theme and date, so I could see all the Space sets in 1987. As
an alternative, being able to sort the result set by year, or price, or
number of pieces would be useful (especially year).

Oh, yeah!  I've wanted that for a long time.

Steve


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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lugnet.admin.database, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:51:27 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your
local currency.  There may also be other AFOL's in your country who do
business with people in the U.S. regularly by which you might be able to
send a payment through indirectly.  Or maybe a few people might get together
and send one bank cheque.  You could certainly post to your loc group and
ask around...   http://news.lugnet.com/loc/  and find your country listed.


P.S.: this is propably off-topic in this group. Which
news-group does it belong into?

.admin.general or .people, I guess.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:21:14 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Steve Bliss writes:
I think Kyle meant (and even if he didn't, *I'd* like to see it) is that
you can currently get a thumbnail-list by theme, like
<http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=*space&qn=20>.  But it would be nice to be
able to get the same list, but limited to a subtheme, like M:Tron.

Well, actually, that link above lists any sets within a category containing
the component word "space" -- which in this case includes accessories and
Dacta categories.

If you want *just* LEGO SYSTEM Space sets, click the link that says _Space_
in one of the theme thingies that looks like this:

   _LEGO_ > _SYSTEM_ > _Space_ > _etc_

and that'll bring you here:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=lego/system/space

Similarly, if you want *just* LEGO SYSTEM Space M:Tron sets, click a link
that says _M:Tron_ (or do a search for "m:tron" and click it) and that'll
bring you here:

   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qc=lego/system/space/mtron

which shows the 9 M:Tron sets (those and only those).

--Todd

p.s.  LEGO doesn't use the word "theme" or "subtheme" -- it's something
JoshuaD says I made-up a while back that unfortunately stuck.  M:Tron is
actually a "play theme" within the LEGO Space System (a.k.a. LEGO SYSTEM
Space).  Thus, Space and Castle aren't themes -- they're systems.  M:Tron
and Ninja are play themes.  (If you wanna be fully A/R about it.  :-)


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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Date: 
Sat, 16 Sep 2000 02:22:55 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
1)  I figured out I needed to hit the "Update" button to submit a vote.  But
it's not intuitive where it's placed in the "My Collection" box.

OK, sorry 'bout that.  Do you think it would it help if there were another
"update" button below the rate box?


Yeah, that works.  Thanx!


4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure • for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like • the
one shown here?--

  http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/


Yeah, that's kind of what I meant.  I just noted that the "quick start"
list wasn't expandable or anything so that I could click directly
on a specific sub-theme or whatever.  Going to a major them, and
then browing the thumbnails until I find a member of a sub-theme,
and then clicking on that link next to it to get the rest of the
sub-theme just seemed a little clunky  :]


Thanx,
KDJ
________________________________________________________
Kyle D. Jackson, LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people
Date: 
Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:42:30 GMT
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:

In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your

Sending USD in a letter (and accepting the risk of having the
sum stolen) seems to be the most acceptable version to me. What would
the postal adress be? A (rather quick) check at lugnet.com didn't
turn up an adress.


Regards,
Hakan


--
"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people
Date: 
Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:43:01 GMT
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You can send the money directly i you are willing to take the risk...
It worked well from Sweden. (If you get the adress right...)
Other option are way to expensive.
/Jocke

"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:G0xw9r.MHy@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've • been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your
local currency.  There may also be other AFOL's in your country who do
business with people in the U.S. regularly by which you might be able to
send a payment through indirectly.  Or maybe a few people might get • together
and send one bank cheque.  You could certainly post to your loc group and
ask around...   http://news.lugnet.com/loc/  and find your country listed.


P.S.: this is propably off-topic in this group. Which
news-group does it belong into?

.admin.general or .people, I guess.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people
Date: 
Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:31:54 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Sending USD in a letter (and accepting the risk of having the
sum stolen) seems to be the most acceptable version to me. What would
the postal adress be? A (rather quick) check at lugnet.com didn't
turn up an adress.

Hakan,
After you fill out the enrollment form,

   http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/join/enroll.html

the server will later send a confirmation e-mail which will include the
mailing address.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: Announcing new set database
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Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:14:55 GMT
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Selam,

Haklisin, "cash in envelop" her zaman kullandigim metod, ve simdiye
kadar hep calisti (70 den fazla)..:-) Ancak parayi bir-iki normal sayfa
arasina saklamayi ihmal etme.

Selçuk

PS. Sorry for the language people..:-) But Hakan is the first here
(after 3 years) in lugnet (and RTL) who I can speak in my own language.


Hakan Tandogan wrote:

Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:

In lugnet.admin.database, Hakan Tandogan writes:
Which reminds me... How would someone from Europe become a
member? I've got some idea what value lugnet brings to me but don't
know how to send the money to the organization....

Well, PayPal says they'll be doing international payments soon (they've been
saying that for a while, but I *think* I just heard it was supposed to be
happening in the next month).  But certainly if you felt safe sending cash
(and it's not illegal in your country), you could send that in USD or your

        Sending USD in a letter (and accepting the risk of having the
sum stolen) seems to be the most acceptable version to me. What would
the postal adress be? A (rather quick) check at lugnet.com didn't
turn up an adress.

        Regards,
                Hakan

--
"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"


Subject: 
Repost to Todd (Was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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G'day Todd,

I was wondering about the outcome of the thread below
that we had a while back.  Essentially, it concerned
the new set guide only having quick links to major
themes, but no (expandable) tree to allow direct
access to a sub-theme.  For example, to see all the
sets in Classic Space (without using those search
terms) I need to select Space here:

http://guide.lugnet.com/

and then click on the {Classic} in the first classic
space set I find in the guide.  Is a
browse-down-to-subtheme feature still planned?

Thanx,
KDJ
_______________________________________
LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada


In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
4)  Everything is grouped by major categories now, with no menu structure • for
looking at sub-themes.  Will this be re-added?

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean a tree view, like • the
one shown here?--

  http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/browse.cgi

If so, ya, we'll make something like that for the new one too -- only more
clear.  There's a quick start at a list of themes on this page:

  http://guide.lugnet.com/


Yeah, that's kind of what I meant.  I just noted that the "quick start"
list wasn't expandable or anything so that I could click directly
on a specific sub-theme or whatever.  Going to a major them, and
then browing the thumbnails until I find a member of a sub-theme,
and then clicking on that link next to it to get the rest of the
sub-theme just seemed a little clunky  :]


Thanx,
KDJ
________________________________________________________
Kyle D. Jackson, LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada


Subject: 
Re: Repost to Todd (Was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
Is a browse-down-to-subtheme feature still planned?

Yes

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: Repost to Todd (Was: Re: Announcing new set database)
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Date: 
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
Is a browse-down-to-subtheme feature still planned?

Yes


Okey-dokey.

Thanx,
KDJ
_______________________________________
LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada


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